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AsGryffynn on 23 January 2016
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Eddie_Raja said:
SpokenTruth said:

Several people seem to think that winning or losing in the console race is a direct indicator of corporate health and the security of that company's future.

Below is a list of a few current (end of 2015) aspects of each that company that should shed more light on exactly how successful or in danger they are.  Unfortunately, this will compare the entire companies rather than just their game segments but for the sake of a company being solvent, it's relevant.

 

Company Nintendo* Sony* Microsoft
Cash and Short Term Investments $7.6 Billion $15.7 Billion $96.5 Billion
Total Assets $11.3 Billion $132.0 Billion $176.2 Billion
Total Liabilities $1.5 Billion $107.6 Billion $96.1 Billion
Total Debt $103,000 $18 Billion $7.5 Billion


* - All figures converted from Japanese Yen to USD.

So I want to highlight two big things here that I have known, and no one else ever seems to get:

1) Yes Nintendo has a ton of cash on hand, and no debts.  But Sony has WAY more cash, and if they got into trouble they have 12x the assets to sell off if they need help staying afloat.   Nintendo DOES NOT.  If they run out of money they are screwed!

 

2) There is no doubt that MS has far more money than Sony.  However they only have like 30% more assets.  They are fairly comparible companies in terms of size - MS cannot just bully Sony around and shove their way to victory like a lot of people seem to think here.

Unless you count their overseas proceedings which are nearly 131 percent of what they have in here...

Swordmasterman said:
SpokenTruth said:

No, because that's not the point.  This shows that if a company has multiple divisions and 1 part is doing horribly, the rest can help keep that division going.  Conversely, if most division are doing bad but 1 division is doing good and all you focus on is that good division, you are not seeing the full picture.

Nintendo is the only one of the 3 where focusing on games only can tell you the financial health and future of that company.  For the other 2, you have to consider all divisions else you may end up with an unrealistic expectation of the company as whole and their future.

Better stated, Sony and MS have other divisions that can save or doom their companies even if their gaming divisions are doing good/bad.  But if all you see is the games part, you'd never know if that company is doing well or barely treading water.

This really isn't how the things works, and i think that this thread was a Personal atack to Sony's finnance, because the main point of your thread is "Sony, is making profit with Playstation, but will go Bankrupt because of other divisions and there will be no future of purchasing a Playstation, and they will not make another console".

 

a Multi-billion company will never go Bankrupt because they have a lot of resources to dont go Bankrupt, they can make the company Smaller to prevent this, re-make the contract with their Debts to pay over time, and a lot of other things.

 

Who run any multi-billion company are hundreds of men and they have a lot of money also they are not Retard, i want you to say what Multi-billion company has gone Bankrupt, since the last Century, even "PetroBras" Brazilian's biggest company that lose much of their Company's Value, and dropped a lot from Revenue, and Profit, dozens and dozens of Billions of US$, and still going on, with Hundred of thousands of employers.

The Brazilian's richest man that lost everything of their fortune (Multi-billion US$), And after lost everything and had a Multi-billion Debt that he would never be able to pay, he managed to make a Deal, and now he still have Multi-billion US$.

 

I Dont know a single multi-billion company that has gone Bankrupt, so you can remind me wich ones had gone for good ?.

...you aren't serious, aren't you?