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DonFerrari said:
SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:
What is really the point?
We all know Sony finances aren't that strong and that doesn't matter how much money MS throws in X1 it won't pass PS4.
So you just wanted to?

The point is already in the original post.   I'll repost it here.

Several people seem to think that winning or losing in the console race is a direct indicator of corporate health and the security of that company's future.

To elaborate...many people suggest that Nintendo should go 3rd party, merge with someone or are near bankruptcy.  On the other side, you have a lot of people that think Sony is doing exceptionally well given the success of the PS4.  These figures give a alternate perspective than just sales so that a more informed discourse can take place.

Yes, when have Nintendo done bad in gaming? Never. On PS2 gen they had big profits because of Gameboy +Advanced+DS that was why they passed N64 and GC in comfort. This gen they had 3DS and WiiU selling 60M and stil aren't very good on profitability. So yes if Nintendo was a console only (no HH) they probably would have already left the gaming space, if you want to add HH they have been winning the race for all gens so your point doesn't hold.

So basically it seems like you don't know very well the point you are making and you don't have the numbers on how well Sony or MS would be doing if they were console only... And it should be obvious that a company the size of MS console bussiness is irrelevant. And on Sony part it is becoming more relevant. 

So I ask again, what is your point if you were looking correctly at the numbers?

97alexk said:
Teeqoz said:

No really. Just no. Not at all.

I mean, they had once. maybe not anymore

TV was giving then losses for the last 10 years before it game small profits in 2015. Mobile is something like small profit and big losses for the last 5 years... Kowen probably have the numbers and remember the trend from the top of his mind. So nope TV and Mobile isn't what make they stand, finance services is stronger there.

Completely forgot Sony has a bank too...