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Aeolus451 on 20 January 2016
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MTZehvor said:
Aeolus451 said:

As I said, it's up to state. "You must either be employed for at least 32 hours a week, meet the family violence opition criteria or have child welare issues and be actively working to resolve them." might be a requirement in a few states but not in most. I didn't say they were lazy but they are staying on welfare because they're getting alot of free money through benefits/stamps. 

Do you think any state would consider a single mom with 3 kids and the father(s) are not paying any child support, in a state of hardship? Even if she has roommates or a boyfriend? What incentive does she have to get a decent job or go to school if she's getting medical insurance, some free medical, free food and actual cash that supposed to go to a place to stay? The moment she makes enough to get taken off of it, she'll be in a worse situation because she'll have to pay for those things herself when she's not used to it. What I'm getting at, is that welware is supposed to be a temporary pick me up for when someone is on hard times til they are on their feet again but many people aren't bothering to get back up. 

It is a requirement in most. As of 2013, all but 5 states require the person to hold either work at least 30 hours a week work load or be involved in a welfare to work program. In addition to this, the requirements are quite stringent to even qualify for TANF, let alone keep it past 5 years. You can view them for each state here.

Even if she has roommates or a boyfriend? What incentive does she have to get a decent job or go to school if she's getting medical insurance, some free medical, free food and actual cash that supposed to go to a place to stay? The moment she makes enough to get taken off of it, she'll be in a worse situation because she'll have to pay for those things herself when she's not used to it. What I'm getting at, is that welware is supposed to be a temporary pick me up for when someone is on hard times til they are on their feet again but many people aren't bothering to get back up. 

If we didn't have statistics to argue the other way, I would agree. Theoretically, people would simply choose to stay on welfare. With that said, the vast majority don't stay on for 3 years, and over 90% are off in 5 years time. For one reason or another, be it social stigma, or simply the state actually doing a competent job at enforcing its requirements, people don't stick around on it for a long period of time. You keep citing the "many people" that are supposedly taking advantage of the system, but you don't have any sources or statistics to back that claim up. People simply choosing to stay on welfare for free money makes sense, but it just isn't happening en masse in the real world.

You damn well know that alot of info or statistics are not entirely factual or tellt the whole story. Those statistics didn't mention one thing about the hardship extension or any data on it or that people actually go past the 5 years. That's awfully convenient. How many people are actually recieving TANF benefits well past the 5 years?  

Federal government leaves it up to each state. There's no rule saying they have to work 30 hours. I read through a good bit of what you linked and the majority of did not say you had be working whatever amount of hours a week. They said they have to be looking for work.