Climate Change: What's your take?

[Teeqoz]

Groundking said:

Teeqoz said:
I think the reason "the alarmism is increasing" (though I haven't noticed that) is because people are more informed, so more people are aware of the issue. It's not because those that were aware of the issues have become more "alarmed".

As far as the actual issue goes, it's there and it's real. There's no denying that. I can't say I know the extent of this issue, but to me it's enough to know that it's real to feel a certain responsibility to avoid that it gets out of hand. There have already been complications that are pretty undeniably related to manmade activities. There has been more cases of extreme weather (and that's something that I can notice from where I live), sea levels have risen, deserts are spreading more and more rapidly, mean temperature is increasing. All these things are measurable and have been measured.

It's better to be safe than sorry here. Better to take too many preventative measures than too few. Better to take action now than to wait to find out how big the consequences will be.

What complications that are undeniably related to manmade activities? If you're talking about oil spill and things of that nature fine, but what does that have to do with 'climate change'. There actually haven't been an increase in extreme weather, the number of storms each year is dropping. Sea levels are risin a miniscule ammount since we started pumping CO2 into the atmosphere, they rose far more rapidly at the end of the last ice age 10000 years ago. Deserts are spreading due to piss poor land use and deforistation, NOT due to 'climate change'. What if the preventitive measures cause more harm than doing nothing?

 

I went a bit beyond just climate change and talked abit about general environmental issues caused by man. I'm not gonna bother giving you specific examples, but I'll help you out a bit:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=environmental+issues+cause+by+humans

And there has been an increase in extreme weather events. Here's a graph for average extreme weather events per year in the named decade:

Not sure which universe that trend is going downwards, but whatever.

Sea levels have risen more in the past yes, that does not mean we should just ignore that it is rising now. Deserts are spreading both because of poor resource management, but also because of an increase in average temperature, which leads to a drier climate. Climate change isn't even a question. The only thing that is even up for debate is if it's manmade or not. If you choose to believe that warmer temperatures in desert areas doesn't contribute to deserts spreading, um, okay then.

What preventative measures could lead to more harm (by reducing the amount of greenhouse gases we emit) than continuing the way we are doing right now?