Can Feminists Get Any More Desperate?

[ReimTime]

o_O.Q said:

ReimTime said:

 

I'm sorry you feel that way about my example, I can tell it was a poor way of getting across what I wanted to say.

"which opinions are you talking about exactly?"

In context, the opinion that women should be held accountable for being raped. I can't really expand upon that without redundancy.

Contrary to my prior beliefs, it appears that we actually share many opinion.

The only part I may disagree with (and I can't tell if you hold this opinion or not, but I think others do) is how we may go about taking precautions to lower the risk of future sexual abuse. Some users present here, it would seem, think that action needs to be taken by the females (ie: don't go out alone etc.). I believe that there are better ways of dealing with it, starting with an educational foundation and continuing with moral accountability on the male's part. Is that a losing battle? Will there always be rapists? That's tough to say, but telling women not to go out alone or get drunk seems like an inefficient way of dealing with an existing problem IMO.

 

"I'm sorry you feel that way about my example"

 

all i'll say is that you should value the sacred emotional connection between men and women more than just the base desire for sex

 

"The only part I may disagree with (and I can't tell if you hold this opinion or not, but I think others do) is how we may go about taking precautions to lower the risk of future sexual abuse"

 

the problem is simply that as long as potential rapists have relative freedom, women will always be in danger and as a result they have a couple options to increase their safety : either avoid situations that appear to be dangerous or use some type of self defense method

outside of women's choices the only option avaliable to society is to restrict the freedom of men

people pretend that education is also a viable option but to me it obviously is not because there are people that do not care about what they are taught or other people in their environment and these people are generally the type of people that cause harm to other people whether that be through rape or other methods

 

", starting with an educational foundation and continuing with moral accountability on the male's part. "

 

what if the male as plenty students do refuses to adhere to your teachings? what if they possess low empathy and hate authority? how does education work then? well it doesn't and i'm pretty sure it is these kinds of people that are rapist generally

 

"Will there always be rapists? That's tough to say"

 

are people who are psychopathic or who possess low empathy ever going to disappear? no they are not...

if you keep everyone under survelance in addition to retricting their freedom/controlling their behavior well yeah under those circumstances you could eradicate rape but otherwise no, i can assure you that education is not going to do it

Yeah it is a tough call. I wish there was an easy answer. I do agree that women should be more careful but that is still a far cry from claiming that they should be held accountable for being raped (as some users present have done).

Would getting tougher on sexual crimes work maybe? Harsher penalties? Who knows; although I do know the death penalty has done nothing to reduce crime rates in Texas.

As an aside, this may be a good topic for any Sociology class. I may bring it up my next class to see if my Professor would be interested in having a class discussion about it in our Crimes and Punishment unit.