Can Feminists Get Any More Desperate?

[ReimTime]

o_O.Q said:

ReimTime said:

 

What I am saying is that exemplifying the opinions as expressed in this thread will only negatively effect your relationships with (the majority of, but not all) female peers. This doesn't just include the females you may be sexually interested to; a lot of people (male and female, young and old) may lose respect for you if they hear you advocate that opinion. Using Hentai as an example was a poor attempt at humor - connecting to how Hentai portrays women being connected to the views expressed, and a loss of friends leading to sexual frustration and a longing for companionship... but I digress. Obviously that isn't a guaranteed outcome.

Moving past that, I do believe in the values I am fighting for, and tbh I'm not sure how you came to the opposite conclusion. Don't put words into my mouth please.

All in all, I disagree with the opinion that women should be at fault when they are raped. Again it is an absurd notion in my head, but I won't gain any ground trying to convince you of my opinion. Just please, if you do anything at all, read about the Suffrage movement or any other legitimate feminist movement (not the hateful men are pigs movement) before you make up your mind on women's rights. And please at least reconsider the view of women being at fault for rape.

 

"this thread will only negatively effect your relationships "

 

so why did you choose to only use the sexual side as a punishment? you didnt say that having this mindset will impact negatively on emotional connections with women or your abiliy to bond with them

you focused only on what men use for sexual release and that tells me something... especially because its the most common manipulative tactic used by feminists against men whether they be male or female

ironically you would think that men using alternative methods for sexual release over women would be celebrated as a way of lowering the chances of women having dangerous interactions with men but its not, its used as a shaming tactic lol

 

"a lot of people (male and female, young and old) may lose respect for you if they hear you advocate that opinion."

 

which opinions are you talking about exactly? 

 

"Moving past that, I do believe in the values I am fighting for"

 

well your actions tell me that this is not the case

now here i'm not talking about you specifically but feminist men in general... they always let slip in many ways that they are some of the biggest sexists around in that they think women are weak and incapable of taking responsibility

 

"I disagree with the opinion that women should be at fault when they are raped. Again it is an absurd notion in my head, but I won't gain any ground trying to convince you of my opinion."

 

and everyone here is in agreement with you... all people are saying is that precautions can be taken to avoid or lower the chances of encountering dangerous situations

 

"if you do anything at all, read about the Suffrage movement or any other legitimate feminist movement"

 

ironically i'm sure i know more about the feminist movement, its origins and its real goals than you do

 

" And please at least reconsider the view of women being at fault for rape."

 

well i would if i had that view to begin with

 

I'm sorry you feel that way about my example, I can tell it was a poor way of getting across what I wanted to say.

"which opinions are you talking about exactly?"

In context, the opinion that women should be held accountable for being raped. I can't really expand upon that without redundancy.

Contrary to my prior beliefs, it appears that we actually share many opinion.

The only part I may disagree with (and I can't tell if you hold this opinion or not, but I think others do) is how we may go about taking precautions to lower the risk of future sexual abuse. Some users present here, it would seem, think that action needs to be taken by the females (ie: don't go out alone etc.). I believe that there are better ways of dealing with it, starting with an educational foundation and continuing with moral accountability on the male's part. Is that a losing battle? Will there always be rapists? That's tough to say, but telling women not to go out alone or get drunk seems like an inefficient way of dealing with an existing problem IMO.