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the difference for sony and ms is if 360 reaches 50 mill by end of this gen they have doubled their base. on the other hand if ps3 reaches 70 mill by end of this gen their base will have shrunk by at least half. either way sony have the most to lose. they let ms get a head start and on current trends they hav,nt the time left in this gen to regain it. thats also taking into account there will be no more banana skins along the way for them. as i said earlier in this thread the wii imo is hurting ps more than 360. also remember as every week and month passes it is losing the advantage of been the new kid on the block. ms have had serious problems with their rrod but as current sales show they have got through that patch.