oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
oniyide said:
curl-6 said:
I can't recall which specific users made these claims, but there it wasn't just one or two, it's a debate I've had dozens of times over the last 5 years.
Wii's success was due to a shrewd reading of the market; they saw an untapped audience and successfully captured it. Then other companies moved in, the Blue Ocean became another Red Ocean, and as usual when this happens, Nintendo was too slow to respond.
Had they applied the same degree of insight to the Wii U, they would have seen that the market in 2012 was drastically different to 2006, and that what they were attempting would not work.
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oh i believe you, but i dont think it was that many of them and they havent been spouting that in a while.
Yeah, but what were they gonna do? Its not like they couldve pulled another motion control thing and the actual tech of the Wii itself insured it was gonna get left to the wayside in alot of things. Im not trying to be hard, i really would like to know, cause i knew that it was always gonna turn out like this as soon as i picked up the wiimote and said "yup this is cool, but it wont last"
fair enough, but what would have been the alternative, stick with motion? cause that wouldnt have worked, straight red ocean against Sony/MS that didnt work even when Sony didnt really know what they were doing (PS1)
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Honestly, I'm just a forum-going gamer, I can't say what would have been the best option for them, I just don't believe Wii U was the optimal course for them to have taken this generation. They fucked it up on so many levels (name, marketing, software, price, horsepower) it's crazy.
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respectable. I'm trying to think of a scenario where they would have been better. With PS3 it was simple "599 is way too damn much reduce the price" they did and turned it around. This Wii U is far more complex
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Drop the gamepad and lower the price. When gamers caught wind that replacement gamepads cost $150 in early 2013, it ruffled a lot of feathers because it showed that it was an expensive gimmick that saw little to zero use to a lot of people. A lot of people like the Wii U as a companion console but they don't want to pay a primary console price for it -- especially when all it gets is less than half of Nintendo's 1st party games, frequent and extensive software droughts and a couple of exclusive indies along with next to zero 3rd party support.
I just hope that whatever gimmick Ninetndo has lined up for the NX, that it's either cheap to impliment and/or easily justifiable because if it's another Wii U situation where the gimmick is poorly utilized and takes up more than a third of the console's total cost, it's going to fail. I personally think the gimmick is a unified library, which I think would be great.
