bdbdbd said:
Kai_Mao said:
Chazore said:
Then what would you call above Wii U numbers but nowhere near X1/PS4 numbers?, again that feels like a big rock and a hard place scenario and still sounds like it's bad either way. I mean just say they did better or slightly better than WIi U numbers, how long will it take before we have the same discussions where Nintendo might go 3rd party or might be doomed because either way we're forcing this on Nintendo for simply not toppling the other two and now we have their own current system thrown into the mix. I strongly feel that from all this there is simply no winning for Nintendo at all because even if they had slightly better numbers than Wii U we'll still find some area to complain about how bad it is that they are doing even despite them not doing Wii U numbers, damned if they are and damned if they don't. We talked about their catch 22 situation a year and a half ago and I feel we'll be right back to talking about that with the NX in terms of sales and support.
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This.
It's like as if NX will be Nintendo's last chance at home console making. Sure they're not profiting like in the Wii/DS days, but they haven't lost as much as we make them out to be. What if NX sells only 20 million but gains a profit? Or a $200 million loss per year? As mentioned, we could all be senior citizens by the time Nintendo is in any position to file bankruptcy if they lose about $250 million per year starting at 2012. As of now, we don't know how much they'll spend on NX in terms of hardware.
They don't necessarily have to win 1st, but to earn profit. I mean, they did it throughout almost all of their 30+ years in the game industry with exception of 2-4 years, which says a lot considering they've been in third place for home consoles for 3 of the last 4 generations. Now with all their newest ventures outside of traditional gaming, who knows where this will go.
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Look guys, you can live in a fantasy land all you want, but in the real world there are people called shareholders, who own the company and who's money Nintendo is spending. If Nintendo is unable to pay dividents and shareholders are unhappy, it's game over for Kimishima and someone else replaces him (and does what it needs to in order to retain high profitability). One of the biggest reasons for NX was not only the platform to save costs, but also the continuation of profits. I think Yamauchi accepted the ups and downs of new hardware release as being a part of the business, but the new shareholders may want a continuation, and a platform for multiple devices for the foreseeable future provides just that.
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Sony was unable to pay dividends in FY 2014 for the first time in 50 years and it wasn't game over for Kazuo Hirai.
Besides, the majority of Nintendo shares are held by large banks who are not as fickle as the individual investors who are looking short term. Nintendo has been a publicly listed company since 1962, and that's more than a decade before Microsoft existed. Nintendo was also founded over a 126 years ago in 1889 as a card manufacturing company and has had to reinvent themselves many times over the years but has always found success in entertainment and games. They also just recently moved into a new building and have merged their hardware and software divisions for better efficiency and productivity. Nintendo knows there is a lot of strength in their IPs and creativity and and won't give up on those things anytime soon. Nintendo wants profits too and hardware is still part of that equation.
New Nintendo Divisions Below:
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Establishment of the Entertainment Planning & Development Division |
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We will integrate personnel who are involved in the development of software for Nintendo platforms and smart devices in addition to work associated with effective utilization of character IP, and in order to create a structure that operates efficiently and rapidly, the Entertainment Analysis & Development Division and the Software Planning & Development Division will be consolidated into the newly established Entertainment Planning & Development Division. |
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Establishment of the Platform Technology Development Division |
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We will integrate personnel responsible for the technology development essential for Nintendo’s hardware formation such as hardware, OS, development environment and network, and in order to create a structure in which we can more broadly and efficiently conduct technology development necessary for new products and services, the Integrated Research & Development Division and the System Development Division will be consolidated into the newly established Platform Technology Development Division. |
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Establishment of the Business Development Division |
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We will newly establish the Business Development Division, a division with the aim of refining the business model for the dedicated video game system business, and creating and making profitable the smart device business and the new business that utilizes character IP. |
