potato_hamster said:
AsGryffynn said:
They are jumping over. People want to play the game on a current gen console unless they are too expensive...
As for Far Cry 3... I hate to use that word but...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Cry_3#Sales
Undertracked...
Not to mention that there is another factor. The PS3 wasn't well received in America where these games do the bulk of their sales, whereas the PS4 is, but that isn't a problem since both sales are rather close anyways and my original point was how you can expect games for more popular consoles to sell more... when current gen outsells the former, it's great news, but it doesn't happen often...
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It could be undertracked, or it could just be the sales of Blood Dragon that wasn't tracked. We don't know. These announcements can be a bit nebulous.
Regardless - it's excuse after excuse. The fact of the matter is, even if we isolate the PS3's/PS4's North American install base, the PS3 had a much much larger install base when Far Cry 3 was released than the install base of the PS4 when Far Cry 4 came out. If you want to talk secondary consoles (in terms of sales) and compare PS3 Far Cry 3 sales to Xbox One Far Cry 4 sales, the picture is even worse, and the X1 is selling much more closely to the PS4 in NA than the PS3 ever did with the X360.
However, the fact that its even close comparing Far Cry 3 PS3 sales to Far Cry 4 PS4 sales completely contradicts your argument that a platform's install base (if relatively healthy) can have a dramatically negative effect on a game's sales. I mean the Wii U has less than 6 million sales in North America and that platform has multiple games that have sold over a million copies in North America. Install base really is no excuse when you have 12 million North American Xbox Ones sold. That is more than enough consoles to have 2-3 million in sales.
Any way you look at it, if you're any bit consious of the video game landscape, the sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider are bad, and must incredibly disappointing for Square Enix and Microsoft. They definitely expected to have at least double the sales at this point.
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You are the one who claimed the stuff I said was nebulous, even though I just proved opposite.
But I can't say that they were expecting at least 2 million. Sounds reasonable for current gen numbers and more so for XONE numbers, but I doubt 1M is low for a single platform. Unless you're implying they are referring to both, except for one thing. These are Christmas estimates, and this site has the combined sales of both at 1M BEFORE Christmas. Don't you think it's a bit stupid to claim that it refers to both?
Also, why would they expect 3M sales in one or two consoles after a few weeks? Do they realize that TR rarely sells those numbers on a single system? The PS3 version of the Reboot barely pulled 2.5M. Either someone has unrealistic expectations or someone is trying to make a good game seem bad for the sake of console war arguments. And you're missing an important point here. Most of the users in NA that were interested in games like Far Cry were on the Xbox 360 back then. Between that, undertracking and everything in between, I can safely say Far Cry 3 has sold more than Far Cry 4 to date...
Why should I believe you when Ubisoft is providing the information themselves?
