It's November 21st 2016. The NX is out and more powerful than the PS4. Are 3rd parties on board?

[midrange]

Wyrdness said:

midrange said:

Wonderful 101 is first party, but it was worked on by a third party company. Third party support is not limited to third party ip. The fact that platinum put a lot of work into wonderful 101 only for it to bomb is idiotic. Almost anything platinum makes is niche, so you can't say that it failed because it was niche. Likewise, the game had virtually no marketing. How are other third party devs supposed to collaborate with Nintendo if Nintendo doesn't put their part in as a publisher to market the game.

 

Lego city didn't sell that well despite reaching a million (reason for the 3ds port), and zombiu was confirmed to have bombed (just because zombi bombed everywhere else doesn't mean zombi u did well). Those two games were designed as exclusives and performed poorly to the point of needing ports to recover costs.

 

Rayman legends is the game that hurts your case the most.

Rayman was publicly said by ubisoft to have performed poorly, regardless of how it did compared to everything else. 

Rayman was the ultimate third party game for Nintendo - age appropriate, designed as an exclusive, utilizes the gamepad, known IP, devoid of bugs. The fact that this game lost to the ps4 port (no tablet support, different audience, lower install base) is utterly laughable. This game should have dominated on the wii u, and it didn't. What the excuse now?

 

likewise, you didn't addres need for speed or deus ex. Both well made ports that ... Surprise surprise ... Bombed.

Nintendo should have put in way more effort to have made these games successes. What third party company would want to work with a platform where well made games are sent to die?

Again I'm going to tell go back and read the post otherwise move on because your post is only coming across as daft and desperately trying to jump in, I flat out mentioned the userbase aren't going to cling to late ports, games that aren't well handled or poor practices by third parties, NFS, DE are late ports, COD and AC weren't handled well and Rayman was sent to die being delayed from March to September a month when GTA was released and close to when SM3DW's release this only further backs my stance. To further highlight how out of touch your post here is Rayman stopped being a big seller ages ago yet the Wii U version outsold the 360 and X1 versions but trust you to be selective on that point especially as it's near enough sold the same amount as the PS3 version with only the PS4 version outselling it so don't give me any nonsense on that.

W101 is as niche as an action game can get if you don't see that then kindly jog on, it's the most technical action game out there with a high skill barrier that requires people to improve their skill, all of this in an unorthadorx approach to the genre. Funny thing is it has outsold other action titles like DMC4:SE, NG and so on on other platforms but again we know you'll avoid that particular point. ZombiU's sales are at 950k retail far from a bomb meanwhile the other versions barely even register, Ubisoft said they lost money and that's their own fault because they scrapped the game from it's original concept and started it again sorry this is you twisting information a sign of desperation, you want to stay clear of the other versions in an argument because it proves what I'm saying on bad handling from third parties leads to bad results.

The 3DS version of LCS is a separate game which shoots down that whole argument before it even takes off which is hilarious.

I did read you're comments. You asked why Nintendo should strive to help third party companies if they don't try. I responded by saying third party companies do try but even then, Nintendo doesn't try (and also gave examples). Apparently I was wrong to do so because not agreeing with you makes me come off as "desperate." 

you can't just find a "flaw" to every single third party game. for you, a game is either "late" or "niche" or "missing content." These flaws are present in all third party everywhere but only the wii u is suffering major third party issues.

the issue, they don't properly support third party games (regardless of the quality of games)