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thismeintiel on 09 January 2016
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Soundwave said:
thismeintiel said:

So wait...You're having problems with Luke training with one of the most powerful Jedis for a few weeks, then perfecting what he has learned for 6 months, and defeating Darth Vader (who the OG trilogy never made out to be Jedi Jesus), yet are excusing someone learning top level Jedi powers on her own in a couple of days?  Yea, that's consistent.

Also, don't call people dorks when you're posting on a video game sales forum.  Not even just a video game forum, but a freaking sales site.  That's probably one of the dorkiest things ever.  We're all dorks here.

I don't have any problems with any of it. That's my point. The Force is a mystical concept and Rey is very obviously some type of "chosen one" (ie: Neo in the Matrix, Luke in the OT, Anakin kind of in the prequels, Harry Potter in the Harry Potter movies). These characters basically all have "latent" abilities that make them tremendously special and can do things with no/little training that other characters in their universe would needs years to do or will never be able to do. 

This is fairly basic character archetype that's used over and over again. If you're going to single out one and pick on it, then you have to pick on your other so-called sacred cows too. 

And I very clearly laid out several examples in the OT and PT of unbelievable, silly things that can happen to characters with little/no training, so please spare me the "oh it's only The Force Awakens that does this!". Hardly. 

Which leads to believe that maybe some of the sexism claims may have merit. If Rey had a penis and looked like this:

Typical male sci-fi "desert scavenger bad-ass"

I doubt this is even half the uproar. I do think it is a stick up some people's asses that it happens to be a young woman character that's cast in the role they traditionally would assume or associate with a man and that's part of the problem they have with it at some level. Rey is a "girl" who is too powerful and too masculine and it has to be explained to them, especially because she makes a fool of the "bad ass" male character at the end of the film (never mind that he's clearly not trying to kill her). 

Please.  I would have the exact same issues if Rey was a man, as would others who are bothered by her 2 day near mastering of the Force.  In fact, it would be moved to the Top 3 in the laundry list of what is wrong with the prequels if Anakin was doing the exact same things as Rey at the end of Ep1.  The only reason people use sexism is because it's the easy out of an argument they are losing.  You have nothing to back up your argument other than you are just fine with it.  It still remains it makes no sense given the previous films, even the poor prequels, yet you are fine with it.  I guess that's fine if you are.  But, don't have such poor excuses to cover up lazy, rushed writing.  Especially when you are scrapping the bottom of the barrel with the sexism argument.  It's become the new race card.  Overplayed.