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Thunderbird77 on 05 January 2016
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JWeinCom said:
Normchacho said:
JWeinCom said:

 


No, it has to have a gimmick, because if it's essentially the same as the already successful PS4, there is no market for it.  

 

No, it's needs to have a draw. A draw and a gimmick aren't the same thing. Motion controls, that's a gimmick. A PS4 that plays Nintendo games, that's a draw. A console that has a large, diverse library of games for both kids and their parents, that's a draw. A Nintendo console that isn't hindered by weak hardware and a dearth of thrid party content makes a very good case for itself.

Gimmick and draw mean the same thing.  But, I get what you mean, and I still completely disagree.

Take a look at the Gamecube.  More powerful than the PS2, Nintendo games, and fairly decent third party support.  Bombed.  

Even IF we assume that the NX gets every third party game day one from launch (which is absolutely unrealistic), then the NX will STILL be 3 years behind in its library.  So, in 2017 what is the draw for the NX exactly?  A few Nintendo exclusives vs 3 years of titles?  The console won't have a library as large and diverse as their rivals for at least two years, and by that time we'll be looking at the PS5.

And how is Nintendo going to draw hype for this thing?  In one booth, Sony has a VR helmet, Microsoft has hololens.  Nintendo has the same thing their competitors made in 2013, but in 2016.  You think that's going to draw headlines?  You think anyone besides the biggest Nintendo, who will buy the thing no matter what, will care?  If you're launching 3 years after a competitor you damn sure better have something to make your product standout, and Nintendo's software is not enough.  If Nintendo's games were THAT big of a draw, the Wii U would not be tanking as badly as it is..  If Nintendo launches without a gimmick, they're essentially begging for Sony's table scraps.

How do ps5 and xbox ??? compete with their rivals that have a 4-5 year library and are much cheaper? wii u's successor is in the same situation as any new gen console, it's competitors will be ps5 and xbox ??? As for the start of your example, all third party releases from that point onwards + nintendo games would make the machine incredibly atractive for the 66% of 7 gen console owners still without an 8 gen console by late 2016. They might as well go for the 9 gen with wii u's replacement.

And do bear in mind that GC didn't have decent third party support, it released one year after ps2 and most major third party games of that gen were ps2 exclusives.