| amp316 said: No, I did not watch the move. I have no idea who this Ham guy is that you keep talking about. Okay, so let's say that the Knights of Ren were created by Snoke. Kylo Ren was implied to have led the Knights into Luke's temple and destroy it. It scares Luke enough to the point where he goes into hiding. This is another problem. Why doesn't Luke just kick the crap out of his student if he is such a novice as so many are claiming? Oh, Luke must've been off you say. Now you're just making stuff up to fit your argument as you have throughout this thread. Wouldn't Luke have returned and whooped him. This might have happened. That might have happened. You're basically telling me that you understand everything better than I do about this movie because your imagination works. You're right in a way. TFA isn't supposed to be a standalone movie. It's part 7 in a series. There has been a gap between of about 30 years between VI an VII. What does it tell us happened in those 30 years? Wait. Let's see... Pretty much nothing. |
OMG hes name ends with with an n, that changes EVERYTHING. Nowhere its implied Luke was scared, what Han says is that he left because he tought he did more harm than good (forgot the exact words but its somewhere along those lines) and the only shot of Luke during the fall of the jedi Order is him with his hand on top of R2 looking from afar. If there was a confrontation with Luke himself the visions didnt show and it seens rather unlikely that Kylo would have any chance of winning. Its also very likely that Kylo was older than every other student as he was probably the first new jedi Luke took under his wing, being his nephew and all. It seens its more out of shame than anything that Luke vanished, imagine how itd feel to look into your sisters eyes and know you failled her son. There might be some conection to Rey in there or Snoke as well, there realy isnt much told about the whole faling of Lukes Order yet, this will be expanded upon on VIII as Luke will have to talk to Rey about stuff now.
Kinda hard to tell 30+ years of story and a new movie at the same time. The story about what happened btween Eps III and IV is never fully told in movies either, it was later turned into novels and now we have Star Wars Rebels the animated series, telling us just that.
padib said:
So the planet is exploding, Kylo is distraught from murdering his father to the point where he can't stop a bow shot, and he's having fun with Finn. I'm expected to be impressed by this character? |
The planet isnt exploding while he is fighting Finn, its also not exploding when he starts the duel with Rey, its only mid duel with Rey that Poe destroys the Oscilator. He is obvioulsy punishing Finn, the whole "TRAITOR!!!" yell kinda gives it away that he didnt like the guy too much, and Rey is knowcked out so its not like he saw her as a threat, he could take his time and have some fun torturing Finn. He does so up until Finn hits him, than he ends the duel in 2 second. So screwed up Kylo Ren completly dominates Finn, no inconsistencys there, basicaly Ren at his worse was still much better than Finn with a lightsaber, he wasnt better than Rey during an outburst of "power" tough.
