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amp316 said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Youre in denial by this point it seens. Leia and Rey cant be compared at all, its not even entirely sure if Leia is force sensitive and even if she is theres realy no paralel that can be stabilished to Rey, so ye that was retarded.

Also Darth Vader was a freaking fully trained Sith Lord, who had already killed 1 entire generation of young jedis on cold blood, backstabed Mace Windu, dueled his own master almost dieing and dueled his master again and this time killed him. Kylo Ren is a conflicted young boy who is being manipulated by Snoke and thinks hes doing the right thing but internaly he is super conflicted, theres also no paralel there.

And even Vader being Vader, in the end his emotions get the best of him and Luke wins the Ep VI duel and Vader kills Sidius and all that so ye, theres that. 



Hmm.  We aren't sure if Leia is force sensitive?  How did she hear Luke calling out to him at the end of the Empire Strikes Back when he was hanging upside down from that weather attenna?  Once again.  Hmm.  Maybe your knowledge of the history of this franchise isn't that good.

When Anakin was a conflicted young boy in Attack Of the Clones and only a Padawan learner under Obi-Wan he held his own for a little while against Count Dooku, who was at one time on the Jedi counsel and trained as a Sith Lord under Sidious.  I don't think that he would have been beaten down by someone that just picked up a lightsaber for the very first time, injury or not.  

I'm sorry, but I think that either you don't have much knowledge of the previous movies and the mythos of the force that was built upon or that you are in denial over the major problems in this latest installment of the series.  Seriously, look through all the BS and see TFA for what it really is.  A good looking movie with several flaws.  

Anakin had 0 conflicts going on on during the Dokhu fight, being conflicted as a person is not the same as going trough an emotional breakdown during the duel. And he looses the duel kinda easilly (also you changed your reference cause the first one you sued about the Cloud City duel was pretty lame and you likely noticed it). And Leia and Rey have 0 paralels, Leia does some very, very minor stuf that were probably guided by the force (like noticing Ham died on FA or hearing Luke), her conection to the force is likely very minor, they never made it clear if she could have been a jedi if she wanted, Rey is so conected ot the force that the moment she touches that lightsaber it sends ripples trough the force that Snoke notices her awakening from freaking wherever the hell he is.

Ihave perfect knowldge of the mythos ty. This movie was very very easy to understand and it follows the mythos betetr than even Lucas himself did in the prequels. You just chose not to understandnig anything that was shown to you, liek you selected not to take into consideration Rys years of fighting in Jakku as training and that Kylo Rens weakened state was a problem during the duel. 

Lawlight said:
The bigger question is how did people forget about Jedi within the span of a couple of generations? That's like forgetting that the Nazis existed in 2016.

Even when the jedis were on theyre peak lots of ppl didnt believe or were skeptical about what they could or could not do. Tham The Empire slaughters the Jedis and make talking about them forbiden. Years go by like this, already on EP IV many dont believe the Jedi were space wizards or even existed. Vader is kinda like the boggieman for the comonfolk, no one even suspects Palpatine is a sith. Luke comes defeats the empire but hes just 1 dude, he doesnt go into public saying, hey Im a jedi look what I cna do. He tries to start the New Jedi Order, shit goes awry, he goes into exile. No one is talking about jedis for like 60+ years now. Also we only know what Finn and Rey tells us, Finn knows the Force exists (or at least has the notion that space magic is real), knows about Luke Skywalker and the the First Order wants him but likely dont know the extent of his power. Rey lived in a remote planet her whole life where nothing of galatic importance realy ahppened, she only heard stories.