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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
AsGryffynn said:

You missed the point. They are trying, but their version of trying is "more money in a single game" and not "all this money on lots of games". After seeing everything they've tried, I won't say they aren't trying. Whether they are trying more than Sony is up in the air even if I personally believe so...

The difference is you can't know how much money is put into a game, that information's private. So you specualate based on the quality of the game. In some cases, its easy. Indie vs AAA for example.

But when you're are talking AAA games against each other, if you try the same guessing all you are doing is guessing based of your preferences which are inherently biased. 

Furthermore, you assume that both companies spent the same amount of money (equity), so you just divide it arbitrarily again based on your own biases.

I am not allowing bias in, but I can say that they are trying. We don't know the amount spent on a game, but we know they are spending $1 billion in XONE games.

I can't compare their games without personal opinion sneaking into the post, but I can say that both companies are trying just as hard and even if one was trying harder than the other, it's not noticeable. Either one is overdoing it or the other is blowing all their funding in movies and crime serials...

Shiken said:

MS is def trying, and I show my support buy buying all of their exclusives minus Forza.  As I said, I like my X1.  Often times I find myself rooting for it just to have it outshined by PS4.

 

When I look at games, I look at how much I enjoy them.  Both consoles have great looking games, so visual investments are a non factor other than PS4 just being more powerful.  RotTR is great, but it is still coming to PS4 eventually (I got it for X1 as I don't confine myself to any one console, even though I have my preferences).  Halo 5 was well done as well, but Uncharted 4 looks to be just as invested and it is right around the corner.  Also Sony co developed Bloodborne through Sony Japan studios alongside From Software, and that is the highest rated exclusive this gen so far and a new IP.

 

Now one thing I will give to the X1 is multimedia functionality.  They are making great strides in this field and take the cake here.  PS4 is a good multimedia console, but the X1 is better in this regard.  However when you look at actual focus of features, the PS4 is paving the way in terms of gaming itself.  Look at Shareplay, open network functionality  (why X1 has no FF14), paving the way for remote play, and investing in VR gaming are examples of how the PS4 trumps the X1 in gaming features (even though the X1 is component in this regard in its own way).  At the end of the day I see it as...

 

X1 multimedia first, gaming second

 

And...

 

PS4 gaming first, multimedia second

 

At the end of the day, MS has not delivered a single game that Sony has not matched in terms of quality AND there are more exclusive games on PS4 to boot.  MS is def trying and doing good, no doubt.  But to say that Sony is trying any less or is uninvested is just false.  That is all I am saying.

I think it's more that MS thinks trying more is spending more money and this is not true. They better find better devs, spend less on movie tie ins and drop microtransactions in favor of more solid games, even if their games' release dates are delayed (their reluctance to do this has bit them back).