Hiku said:
sc94597 said:
Considering there is a saturation point for the # of fans, I really don't see the sales increasing that much. If you noticed, many of their franchises didn't sell that much more on the Wii (with a 101 million install base) than they did on the Nintendo 64 with a 30 million install base. Why? The people who want to play these games already buy Nintendo platforms. Sure, there will be gains, but not as huge as people make it seem, probably somewhere between 15-30% more sales, but with more costs for multiplatform development on expensive platforms to remain competitive (software-wise) and also with less revenue (licensing fees.) You'll see many low to mid-end Nintendo franchises like Fire Emblem, Xenoblade Chronicles, and Metroid stripped out of their development cycles, and a huge emphasis on Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon. That is not good for gamers who enjoy Nintendo games. It also doesn't necessarily mean their profits will go up.
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Not so sure about that. At least Mario Kart Wii sold over 300% of what Mario Kart 64 sold, and Smash Brawl sales were at 230% compared to Smash 64, Mario Galaxy sold the same as Mario 64. But for Mario and Zelda it was pretty much the same as N64, yeah.
But we have to keep in mind that a huge part of Wii's userbase were made up of the casual gamer crowd who either moved on to mobile gaming, or stopped playing as the various soccer moms and whatnot who used Wii fit weren't much of gamers to begin with. I can't really say how interested they would be in Mario and Zelda. But I do think there are many former Nintendo owners out there who liked those games in the past and would still want to play them today, but refuse to buy Nintendo's consoles for one reason or another. I just don't think their core base, or people interested in their games, dropped to just 10m or so.
Speaking from a personal perspective, as much as I loved Nintendo's games for NES, SNES and N64, I always wanted to buy a new Nintendo console, every time one came out. I realy did. But in the end, they just never managed to convince me. I was even so sure that I'd buy a Wii U this time that I bought Mario Kart 8.
 But I never bought a Wii U, and I never will. So that's $50 down the drain because of my continued faith in Nintendo's ability to convince me to buy a console again, in spite of being disappointed console after console, I still have that hope when a new one comes out. And I've been hoping to come back for over 15 years now.
I think there are a lot of Nintendo fans still out there who just don't want to invest in their hardware. At least I see that trend in most of my friends.
If they make a console that I genuinely feel good about purchasing, I will do so. And if they release their games for all consoles, I would definitely buy them.
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Kirby, Donkey Kong, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, Pokemon spinoffs, these are all games that showed little to no gain on Wii compared to their N64/GC counterparts. The only Nintendo IP that saw relevant gains were simultaneous 4 player games like Mario Kart, Smash Bros, 2D Mario, Mario Party.
But I agree with ur overall point, there are more people who are interested in Nintendo games than Wii U leads us to believe, 3DS is actually proof of that. Just out of curiosity, what would it take for u to buy a new Nintendo console? Is it a price thing where Wii U costs too much for what it offers? Is it because of 3rd party support and u would choose a Nintendo console over Sony/Microsoft if it had similar support?
