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AEGRO said:

Lets do some history here. 1st of all Sony is not the reason the gaming industry is healthier, its actually Nintendo, and most of its fans left to go to Playstation and Xbox. The most healthiest years of gaming is when Nintendo is on top just like last generation with every console selling well and Nintendo dominated top spot without a struggle, 7th gen is classed as one of the most successfull gaming genreations when you want to look at console and software sales. What Xbox did to PS is what PS did to Nintendo. Without Nintendo the industry falls even Sony admitted long ago saying they need Nintendo to strive. Nintendo bring in the none gamers which leads to a bigger industry.

http://mynintendonews.com/2013/11/13/sony-we-need-nintendo-to-be-very-successful/

When it comes to game quality PS is far from the top, Sony opened the flood gates for all devs to make games, lowering the standard for qulaity games where Nintendo did the oppsite. Lets go compare how many bad N64 games there were to PS1 games and my point is proven. Same with the PS2 and Gamecube. Nintendo house the best reviewed exclusives and have brought this industry back on its feet single handedly.

JRPGs are not everything and if you havent notice the PC industry house the biggest JRPG range of games, not PS.

You love PS i can clearly see this but your opinions are really mislead to what you like then what actually is fact.



 

 

  • "Lets do some history here"
Lets. This happened when Nintendo was dominating the videogame industry in the 80's and early 90's. Total opression to the developers, ridiculous policies, companies going bankrupt, developers struggling to make money, etc.
"But the resulting tyranny ultimately led the cautious console manufacturer to lose the support and respect of the software community. Its infamous 10NES lockout system, which prohibited unlicensed software from running on the NES console without Nintendo’s approval and direct involvement, began to strangle game developers to the point of retaliation. The ‘Nintendo Seal of Quality’ was losing its golden lustre, the importance shifting from representing the quality of the game to demonstrating the obedience of the developer and its willingness to invest in the hallowed ‘Seal’.

 

Only permitted to release five games per yearwith those games being exclusive to the NES for a further two years – and severely restricted by stringent censorship policies, even a good game struggled to make money for the software companies. Through fair means and foul, game developers set aside almost as much time and effort for reverse engineering the aggravating security system as they did to creating new NES titles.

Nintendo’s retaliation was swift and characteristically severe, immediately targeting any insurgents with its deadly legal machine in an attempt to retain its once justified grip on the home console market."

http://www.gamestm.co.uk/uncategorised/nintendont-the-darker-side-of-nintendos-history/2/

 Wow! Cant wait for Nintendo to rule the market again!

 

  • "1st of all Sony is not the reason the gaming industry is healthier, its actually Nintendo, and most of its fans left to go to Playstation and Xbox"
Wii U Million Sellers:

 

1. Mario Kart 8 2014 Racing Nintendo 2.87 1.72 1.16 0.42 6.17
2. New Super Mario Bros. U 2012 Platform Nintendo 2.31 1.10 1.25 0.30 4.96
3. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS 2014 Fighting Nintendo 2.50 0.81 0.71 0.26 4.28
4. Nintendo Land 2012 Misc Nintendo 2.51 1.00 0.45 0.29 4.26
5. Super Mario 3D World 2013 Platform Nintendo 1.98 0.93 0.67 0.25 3.84
6. Splatoon 2015 Shooter Nintendo 1.43 0.79 0.92 0.20 3.34
7. New Super Luigi U 2013 Platform Nintendo 1.26 0.59 0.17 0.16 2.18
8. Super Mario Maker 2015 Platform Nintendo 0.92 0.51 0.49 0.13 2.05
9. Wii Party U 2013 Misc Nintendo 0.32 0.43 0.83 0.08 1.66
10. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 2013 Action Nintendo 0.84 0.43 0.13 0.11 1.51
11. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze 2014 Platform Nintendo 0.63 0.39 0.14 0.09 1.26
12. Mario Party 10 2015 Misc Nintendo 0.59 0.33 0.19 0.08 1.20
13. Hyrule Warriors 2014 Action Nintendo 0.56 0.33 0.13 0.08 1.10

All of them published by Nintendo. It is because of Nintendo that developers like Bethesda, Ubisoft, EA, Warner Bros, and the rest of the AAA developers/publishers are making money right now right?

So healthy!!!

 

  • "The most healthiest years of gaming is when Nintendo is on top just like last generation with every console selling well and Nintendo dominated top spot without a struggle, 7th gen is classed as one of the most successfull gaming genreations when you want to look at console and software sales."
"Do you know how many game studios have closed during the outgoing generation? Over 150. It's a ridiculous number. A number so great, if we gave them all a round of applause or a 21-gun salute, we'd end up with red stumps for hands and at least one downed UFO."


So healthy!!! All of this happened during the 7th gen, where Nintendo ruled the market.

  • "What Xbox did to PS is what PS did to Nintendo. Without Nintendo the industry falls even Sony admitted long ago saying they need Nintendo to strive. Nintendo bring in the none gamers which leads to a bigger industry."
5th GEN
1) Playstation: 104.25 Consoles Sold.
2) N64: 32.93 Consoles Sold.
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 1) Playstation: 206 Million Sellers.
2) N64: 51 Million Sellers.
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Q: Who benefited more the industry?
A: Playstation with more million sellers, a more diverse catalog and a cheaper format (CD).
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6th GEN
1) Playstation 2: 157.68 Consoles Sold.
2) Xbox: 24.65 Consoles Sold.
3) Gamecube: 21.74 Consoles Sold.
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1) Playstation 2: 325 Million Sellers.
2) Xbox: 54 Million Sellers.
3) Gamecube: 46 Million Sellers.
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Q: Who benefited more the industry?
A: Well, looking at these numbers do i have to say more?
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7th GEN
1) Wii: 101.18 Consoles Sold.
2) Playstation 3: 86.17 Consoles Sold.
3) Xbox 360: 85.18 Consoles Sold.
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 1) Playstation 3: 239 Million Sellers.
2) Xbox 360: 231 Million Sellers.
3) Wii: 157 Million Sellers.
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 Q: Who benefited more the industry?
A: The Playstation 3 have managed to push more software than the competition, even tho it released a yer after the Xbox 360, and that it have sold less consoles than the Wii.
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 The industry as a whole is bigger, but not because of Nintendo. Nintendo is shrinking more and more with each gen. The casuals that were hooked on the Wii migrated somewhere else, just look at the numbers.

  • "When it comes to game quality PS is far from the top, Sony opened the flood gates for all devs to make games, lowering the standard for qulaity games where Nintendo did the oppsite. Lets go compare how many bad N64 games there were to PS1 games and my point is proven. Same with the PS2 and Gamecube. Nintendo house the best reviewed exclusives and have brought this industry back on its feet single handedly."
Sigh...you do you even know what you are talking about? Like really.
Playstation:
90+ Metascored Games: 29
80-89 Metascored Games: 55
N64:
90+ Metascored Games: 17
80-89 Metascored Games: 25
WINNER: Playstation.
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 Playstation 2:
90+ Metascored Games: 58
80-89 Metascored Games: 250
Gamecube:
90+ Metascored Games: 26
80-89 Metascored Games: 98
WINNER: Playstation 2.
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Playstation 3:
90+ Metascored Games: 52
80-89 Metascored Games: 345
Wii:
90+ Metascored Games: 14
89-89 Metascored Games: 91
WINNER: Playstation 3.
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Numbers dont lie.

  • "You love PS i can clearly see this but your opinions are really mislead to what you like then what actually is fact."
Numbers and Facts =/= Opinions.
Who is the one misleading? Me with the numbers? Or you talking out of your ass?

So lets talk about it. The reason Nintendo started going down hill was due to PS, if PS wasnt around the N64 and Gamecube would have sold more same with Sega. Sony were also the ones that put Sega out of buisness. 3rd party companies exist because of PC not becasue of Sony. And they would have continued to exist due to Sega and PC. Your taking credit away from previous companies. Sure PS sells well but thats due to the lack of competition. Sony are in it for themselves and they will do the same with XBox. There PS1 and PS2 sales is what happens when you steal 2 fanbases away just like the WiiU and XB1 now.

Before Sony, there was a healthy gaming industry with the NES and SNES and Gameboys and Sega's Megadrives and Master System. All Sony did was take away Segas fanbase and most of NIntendos and took the sales ride. 

Also your metacritic example is a very poor example and is off topic as it does not show who has had the most bad games orginially stated by me. Sony would always win that catagory since it has more games (not rocket science) and most of them werent made by Sony, There library solely relied on 3rd party. Nintendo will have far less games and far lesser bad games. my PS1 had over 50+ games and only 7 of them i played and the rest were pretty bad. Where as my N64 just about half the games i played on it were decent if not great. Some of the greatest games of all time were not on the PS1 or PS2 but actually Nintendo.

The biggest problem with your info is your only going by the numbers and not the reasons. Also you claim Nintendo is shrinking yet it was only 1 generation ago they destroyed the competition and now they still own a monopoly in the handheld department and just to prove my point before, WiiU isnt selling aswell as the Wii, well guess where most of those gamers went this genretion? Thats right the PS4. Sony is not extending the competition its just taking away and from others. They have been doing it from the very beginning.