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amp316 said:
DakonBlackblade said:

Nope he said this film is for everyone, everyone includes fan. You can enjoy the movie if you allow yourself to, but youre too caught up in the fact that Rey is a powerfull jedi. Super powerfull male characters have been plentyfull and no one have problems with them, Swazeneger is one on every movie he ever made and he isnt even a jedi, but Rey somehow is a problem, even tough she clearly has training in hand to hand combat and lived 20 years alone in a planet full of criminals where she either learned to figth and fend for herlself or died, and its still up in the air if she has or has not ever had jedi training.

And amongst the 92% viewer aproval this movie have Im pretty sure theres millions of handcore fans (me included) that read books, comics, watch the animated series and some even like the prequels a bit. JJ Abrahms put the franchise back on track, now Ep VIII is free to go wherever it like, it recaptured the spirit of what made Srar Wars great, gave us awesome characters and an interesting story that still has a lot to give.

And I can give you at least 1 quote: "you will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open". "Ill tighten those restraints you rebel scum!!!"



I don't have a problem with Rey being the main character or that a woman can be an all powerful Jedi.  Don't get it twisted.  What I do have a problem with is that she learns how to do a force push, move objects using the force and weild a lightsaber to the extent that she can beat down the man that destroyed Luke Skywalker's temple and forced him to flee without any training. Also, she knows more than Han Solo does about the Millennium Falcon...  Rey could have been great if she learned how to do these things over the course of three movies through trials and tribulations, but that would take actual character development and storytelling.  The fast food culture that wants everything NOW gets what they want.   She touches a lightsaber and already is all powerful and perfect.  I can't wait until she beats down Luke on Dagobah or wherever they are during training.  Why does she even need training?  She already made the villain look like a bitch until that earthquake split the ground in between them.  What a lucky thing to happen for Kylo...  

Rey knows how to fight, Kylo is also in training and was injured in theyre duel (2x) and emotionaly a mess, he is far from being a Sith Lord, Rey has 20 seconds of supeiority on a duel she was loosing, thats somethign any force user can achiev, outbursts of powers are pretty common actualy, you know who else did this ? Obiwan x Darth Maul, Maul was a Sith Lord and was 100x stronger than Obiwan who was a padawna back them, still he sees his master dying, focus himself, manages to match Mauls speed and power and them manages to outmanouver him and splits him in 2. The Milenium Falcom went trough a bunch of modifications wich Rey aparently was aware of probably even worked on them as she seemed to have some sort of admmiration for that ship (she knew who had stolen it from who, what had happened ot it and where the stuf where on the ship thats pretty clear). But Im wasting my time we had this discussion like 100 times, ppl will only see what they want to see, this movie makes perfect sense withim itself, Rey has prior training on pilloting and combat, uses only basic force moves, defeats a banged up emotionaly messed up Kylo Ren, than goes get some proper training to face Ren who also goes to have some proper training.

 

And if having a force vision, having TIE fighters and stormptroopers chasing you, getting kidnapped, having someone trie to invade your mind, getting thrown headfirst on a tree and getting knocked out, seing your friend/possible love interest fighting to protect you and getting his spine cut in half doesnt count as trials and tribulations I dont know what does.