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DakonBlackblade on 30 December 2015
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amp316 said:
Soundwave said:
amp316 said:

Yes, Episode VII was Lucas' idea.  He gave Disney his original stories for VII through IX to show what happened next in his universe.  Disney said , " Screw it!  Let's just make a movie for the "fans".

 

No they opted to make a movie that brought back the fun nature of the original movie that appealled to non-nerds. Everyone saw the first Star Wars when it came out, grandparents, stoner rock girls, jocks, not just comic book nerds.

That's the thing with Star Wars is the "fans" are all obsessed with geeky details like what's the relationship of the Empire/Republic and what are politics of it, what's a Super Star Destroyer vs. a Star Destroyer, what can a Jedi do versus what he can't do, etc. etc. ... here's a newflash ... the general public never gave a shit about any of that. 

Star Wars was always about fun, likable characters in a mythic, fairy tale like space opera, but it was about those characters first and foremost. Their struggles, their joys, their fear, their friendships. The rest of it was just window dressing. 

Somewhere along the way, George Lucas forgot this, and started making movies more focused on the politics, midichorlians, cartoon rabbits stepping in space dog shit, power levels, trade blockades, and all the other dull stuff and pushed the characters into the background. 

Nobody quotes any line from the prequels (unless it's to mock them), because none of the characters are relatable or likable in any way. But people constantly quote the OT all the time. 

And there you have it.  You just admitted that this film isn't for the real fans (comic book nerds as you call them), but for the general public. 

Oh, and please give me a quote from the new movie.  Maybe a joke by Finn?  Those were hilarious, huh?  Cool non-nerds love that stuff.  Indestructible women that can do everything and anything without effort or even a bit of struggle are hip too.  It's a sign of the times I guess...  I'm far to dorky get it or this super cool movie filled to brim with pure unadulterated awesomeness.  Time to make sure that my first issue of The New Mutants is still in mint condition.

Nope he said this film is for everyone, everyone includes fan. You can enjoy the movie if you allow yourself to, but youre too caught up in the fact that Rey is a powerfull jedi. Super powerfull male characters have been plentyfull and no one have problems with them, Swazeneger is one on every movie he ever made and he isnt even a jedi, but Rey somehow is a problem, even tough she clearly has training in hand to hand combat and lived 20 years alone in a planet full of criminals where she either learned to figth and fend for herlself or died, and its still up in the air if she has or has not ever had jedi training.

And amongst the 92% viewer aproval this movie have Im pretty sure theres millions of handcore fans (me included) that read books, comics, watch the animated series and some even like the prequels a bit. JJ Abrahms put the franchise back on track, now Ep VIII is free to go wherever it like, it recaptured the spirit of what made Srar Wars great, gave us awesome characters and an interesting story that still has a lot to give.

And I can give you at least 1 quote: "you will remove these restraints and leave this cell with the door open". "Ill tighten those restraints you rebel scum!!!"