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padib said:
AbbathTheGrim said:

"how did he jeopardize Luke's brining up of a new generation of jedi?" is that something a character said in the film? I can't remember. Was it Lor San Tekka by any chance?

Maybe his alliance to the Darkside of the Force jeopardizes the Jedi, but the biggest menace right now appears to be Snoke.

I think they are trying to build Kylo alongside Rey, like having them going through training and have their final showdown where Luke and Snoke's apprentices will show what each taught their pupils.

I bet that in next film they will make Kylo very powerful doing some incredible feats and antagonizing stuff while making Rey feel like she needs to do some catching up, strengthening Kylo's image and turning him into an ultimate villain while allowing Rey's character to have a real aim of becoming better and more powerful.

I like character development, so I like the idea above. I was just a little disappointed at how they portrayed Kylo by showing him as a very powerful Sith and losing that image gradually as the film progressed. The lack of Force use during the final battle was noticeable as well.

If I remember correctly, the person who mentioned the breakdown of the new generation of Jedi due to Kylo Ren was Han Solo in his dialogue with Rey and Finn as they talk about the force on the Millenium falcon when they first meet.

Yes, what you're saying in the last paragraph is exactly what I meant. I think that was a flaw in the movie, and that's why the idea I presented makes sense and doesn't at the same time. The movie wasn't consistent on that character, and though your suggestion of him getting more powerful in the next movies makes sense all things said, it would have been more interesting if he humiliated Rey and Finn, and they caught up to him through training in VIII and IX. Because if he was able to frustrate Luke, who's been there and back when it comes to the force, I was expecting a force to be reckoned with. 

A what to be reckoned with?





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