sabvre42 said:
Guitarguy said:
Rey being able to manipulate minds without any form of training was a travesty. Don't even get me started on Rey and Finn being able to hold their own against Kylo Ren for anything more than 2 seconds. Yeh, Kylo was wounded but let me remind you that Rey and Finn has no training whatsoever with a light saber besides Finn's 30 second duel with a storm trooper hours/days prior and Rey fending off desert creatures.
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The force isn't something you just come into either (except according to the lore... the first jedi).
You may be force sensative and have better than average "luck" / reflexes... but you cannot harness the power until someone guides you in the direction.
Its not some power that just manifests itself in less than 24 hours...
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Totally agreed. This was shown in Empire Strikes Back when Luke had to see Yoda to train extensively and even then he could not lift his vessel out of the swamp. It was a complete kick in the face to the lore.