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oniyide said:
bowserthedog said:
oniyide said:
bowserthedog said:
oniyide said:
bowserthedog said:

 

True they don't like to copy.  But VR isn't a great new idea.  It's a great old idea which is now possible. Nintendo may very well do VR one day but they'll introduce something new and exciting to VR or they won't bother with it. Like how they got into online social interactivity later than their competitors but innovated with Miiverse. They got into stereo 3d after Sony but did it with the glasses free innovation.

And you could do fighting games on wii it was just better to play smash bros with the gamecube controller..  And let's face it. Fighting games are always best with non standard controllers which is why arcade sticks are sold for people who want better than a medicore controller for fighting games.   It's not the issue that you're suggesting it is and if anything Smash bros was as popular on wii as any fighting franchise was on ps3.

 

If they see their direct competitor doing it, i doubt that they will, sure its been around for a while but only now someone is applying it to gaming and it aint Ninty. social interactivity and glasses less 3d brings me back to my point originally, they being different just for the sake of being different. None of those things are innovative or even better than the alternative. Miiverse? Ninty is only now catching up to the comp in terms of anything online related and Miiverse doesnt really add much, same with 3ds, lets be honest with our selves if it was innovative as you claim Ninty wouldnt have lost money and had to cut the price down, their not even pushing that feature anymore. IMHO glasses free 3ds sucks and this is coming from a guy who had 3ds for years. I rather them copy.

Smash would have done well regardless like damn near every Ninty 1st party, now what of the rest of the games on the system? its doing damn good on 3ds and that is not an ideal system to use it for. Fighting sticks are better sure, but gamepads get the job done otherwise fighters would flop, fact is they are very much playable with a standard controller. with wiimote they are just about unplayable, which mean you HAVE to buy another controller to play it.  which sucks and is an issue.

On what planet is glasses free 3d not innovative? At the time the 3ds came out Sony was doing stereo 3d with the ps3 and 3d tv's.   The original 3ds was mediocre no doubt but with the new 3ds the 3d is an enjoyable experience.

The point of making about fighting games is that you're point isn't valid since fighting games still lived and thrived on the system. It was still cheap enough to buy a wii with Smash Bros and a gamecube or classic controller than to buy a ps3 plus Street Fighter IV. If you were a passionate fan of the fighting genre and not a one fighting game a gen type of fighting gamer you had to own a wii..  Wii had two of probably the best 3 fighting games of the gen exclusively. The Wii did not turn off fighting fans it actually brought them into the console with Smash Bros and Tatsunoko vs capcom. So your premise is provably invalid.

And you've also turned this into an agrument about how Nintendo hasn't been innovative. I don't really care about that. I brought up Miiverse and 3ds because it proves how Nintendo approaches copying of ideas.  If they are going to copy and idea they traditionally come in with their own spin on it. If VR takes off and becomes mainstream of coarse Nintendo will jump in and put their own spin on it. But right now it's too expensive because it requires a bare minimum 7 to 8 hundred dollars investment from the consumer.   And when Nintendo does get into VR the industry will benefit greatly from it. I'm excited about VR and will likely go with Playstation VR at first because I already own a PS4 but the one issue that will keep it from really taking off is if it continues to be just a side project. My concern is that Sony is treating it like they did move where they don't use their best studios to make games for it. If Nintendo waited a few years and then came out with an all in one vr solution for 399.99 and used their best studios to create games for it like a Metroid Prime it would be amazing. Right now it looks like Naughty Dog ect won't be cancelling standard games to focusing on aaa games built from the groun up for VR.  Studios like High Voltage Software are making VR games or Insomniac's B team. For VR to be more than a passing fancy eventually someone will have to put gaming best talent and biggest budgets on VR. I'm excited for the technology though.