DolPhanTendo said:
Lol nice I just said this over on a Star Wars ranking thread |
You are asuming the knights of Ren even keep in touch wich each other or that they even have lightsabers, or are forse sensitive, on the one scene we seen them none of them is wielding a lightsaber, only Kylo. Also there is such a thing as jedis/syths/force users who excell at manipulating the force (Kylo obviously does, he freaking stops a blaster shot) but arent very good at lightsbaer duesl, the other way around is also true. And Kylo Ren had just been shot by what is basicaly a grenade launcher, I still dont understand how ppl keep downplaying this, the movie made every effort to show us how destructive that blaster bow is, it even went trough the troble of having Han Solo say "wow this is realy powerfull" after blowing up 3 stormtroopers with 1 shot, Kylo got shot in the guts and survived, he was limping and bleeding and still managed to duel and win 1 and a half duels. He actualy dominates Rey quite easily (shes back padling the whole first half of the duel) gets her with her backs to a cliff while having controll of her saber and doesnt kill her cause he wanted to bring her to the dark side, than the atunement to the force happens and Kylo is caught off guard by how fast and agile she becomes.
Btw I dont disagree with the video you linked, there are lots of plot similaritys, altough I tought FA is more like the plot of all 3 originals compressed together in one movie with some new stuf (specialy the way the villain works) thrown in there. It didnt bother me tough, JJ and Disney played it safe, the movie had to work they had a lot rinding in this one movie working, and it did.
| DolPhanTendo said:
WOW Go watch the older ones again please Both Anakin and Luke Still needed lots of training to do the Jedi Mind Trick it's not that simple as you put it. Luke doesn't do it until 6 and Anakin in the beginning of 3. Also Everyone needs to be TRAINED Yoda says so himself. Go watch the movies again refresh mind. You mention everything in the current movie to make your facts stand out but forget the first 6 rules. |
Luke doesnt realy work as a comparision as Darth Vader, Sidius and Kenobi are also all super nerfed when compared to themselves on eps 1-3 or any other Star Wars lore, this is a sign of the passing of time, everything is more powerfull nowadays, even Superman is. Ben Kenobi for instance can use the mind trick but only issue very simple comands on 4-6, on the Clone Wars animated series (wich is canon) he can basicaly Kilgrave ppl, giving them entire lines of commands, thats the passing of time doing whats called "powercreep" where everything just gets more powerfull because otherwise it doesnt amaze anyone anymore. I honestly dont remember when Anakin learns mind trick, anyway again on the animated series (wich are canon) Ashoka learns it super fast and so does Erza now in Star Wars rebels, Ezra isnt a particulary powerfull jedi (Rey clearly is) and he is trained by a very average dude who didnt even manage to finish his own training and become a proper jedi knight. By curent, 2015, standards mind trick is basic even tough it wasnt before. Also its still unclear if Rey has had any past training or no, at least what regards her duelling we knew she was good at hand to hand combat from her days defending herself in Jakku.
