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IIIIITHE1IIIII on 18 December 2015
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Wyrdness said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

 

That is a ridiculous claim with absolutely nothing to support it. Melee is bigger than ever before precisely because the gameplay is so different from Brawl and Smash 4. Very few top Melee players play Smash 4 even on a casual level.

Let's talk numbers. The greatest smash tournaments in terms of participants are:

1. Smash 4: EVO 2015 - 1,926 (July 2015)

2. Melee: EVO 2015 - 1,869 (July 2015)

3. Melee: Genesis 3 - 1,734+ (January 2016)

4. Melee: The Big House 5 - 1,317 (October 2015

5. Melee: Apex 2015 - 1,037 (January 2015)

6. Smash 4: Genesis 3 - 982+ (January 2016)

7. Melee: Evo 2014 - 970 (July 2014)

8. Smash 4: Apex 2015 - 837 (January 2015)

 

With these numbers in mind it is quite clear that Melee remains the favorite in the competitive scene. Any other claim is just wishful thinking.

 

No offence mate but he's right Smash 4 for many tournaments this year has had a bigger presence, these tournaments include the likes of NEC last week, Norcal Regionals, Canada Cup and even Evo which are all huge tournaments as far as competitive fighting goes. Melee is bigger then before but it's no longer the go to game and mind you this is only the first year for Smash 4 and it beat out Melee in the biggest tournament of the year Evo, I also don't know why you're using 2014's numbers when Smash 4 only arrived much later in that year.

 

Evo always benefits newer games. Melee in particular is especially difficult for new players to get into since no new discs are made and CRT's are used in competitive settings. The fact that Melee was only 57 entrants behind a game that recently released is nothing short of phenomenal.

One must also keep in mind that Brawl actually had a bigger competitive scene than Melee for years after its release. A game which is now bashed left and right by Melee and Smash 4 players alike. Smash 4 on the other hand has already shown a weaker presence than Melee at the year's largest tournaments, excluding Evo. Some less prestiguous tournaments such as the ones you mention and Super Smash Con give the edge to Smash 4, yes, but this is typical for newer games since they attract more players who are new to the competitive scene, and who are less likely to go back after the game has gotten older. In fact, if the pattern repeats itself, Smash 4 is likely to die out when Smash 5 is released, as the top professionals move over.

 

As for why I included 2014 numbers, I made it quite clear what type of list I provided.