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potato_hamster on 17 December 2015
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Soundwave said:

Singular Nintendo hardware will be doomed to fail unless it has a miracle controller.

That's just what the market is. You can say "blah blah blah hardware upgrades, multiple hardware doesn't work" well guess what else doesn't work in 2015. The NINTENDO CONSOLE. Unless Nintendo changes the formula dramatically, they are not going to go anywhere.

Nintendo's own games IMO would scale fairly easily anyway. You look at the new Zelda game, and if you bumped that to 1080p resolution (or even beyond that ... 2K?) added in anti-aliasing and some better lighting shader effects, you'd have a game that would look on par with just about anything on the PS4/XB1.

I mean shit, Zelda: WW, a 13 year old game bumped up to HD with some redone artwork basically looks as good as most of their Wii U titles.

If you can take their internal games and scale them up and down, then the trade off there is worth it IMO because they won't have to make seperate games for console and handheld. Then you can have varying form factors.

The way the market is now, Nintendo has no chance of competing against Sony. What Nintendo fans are asking for is for Nintendo to basically keep doing the same thing over and over again and thinking it will yield different results. It won't. Even just sharing handheld and console games IMO won't do enough. All that will do is basically kill the Nintendo console as people who buy the portable will have zero practical reason to buy the console. 

Personally what I would reccomend is NX be a NEUTRAL BRAND. Not "here's the new Nintendo console with 1000 fruity mascots and a traditional toy design! It's the GameCube 3 basically!". Make the brand "NX" almost separate and distinct from "Nintendo". "NX" plays video games. "NX" is multiple devices. "NX" is age neutral, it's not "your little brother's console" that all Nintendo consoles get stigmatized as. NX just happens to have (wouldn't you know it) all Nintendo IP exclusive and Nintendo Virtual Console on top of other video games. 

Also the cloud computing patent Nintendo filed to me shows something far more ambitious than even what I'm proposing. If that's what Nintendo is actually doing it will completely change the traditional hardware market IMO. It will basically destroy the entire hardware model of the last 30 years. 

And now we're back to "scaling". Brilliant. Because it's just that easy, right? Last I checked, HD remakes were a tremendous amount of effort that take dozens of people months, if not years to just take a game from one single hardware spec to another. And that's not creating a game that can "scale" between multiple hardware specs. Now Nintendo is just going to make a development platform that practically does this on the fly, or just allows developers to "recompile it to use different specs"? Okay Still not a practical idea.

Aside from that, you're essentially suggesting that NX be an operating system. How's that working out for Valve and the Steam OS? I thougth you were suggesting that Nintendo should push the video game industry in new directions. Every idea you've mentioned as a direction to go for either a) already exists in a well established market with dominant industry players that Nintendo would have to compete against b) has been tried or is being tried by a rival which they've failed at, or c) the kind of idea that would get someone fired for even suggesting it, and expecting other decision makers to actually take it seriously.

Even the cloud computing patent you're referring to would be Nintendo's version of "Playstation Now" with a twist of "folding at home". Or in another way of looking at it, it's Microsoft's cloud-based solution where instead of server-based cloud computing you use other people's game consoles and rely on other people's internet connections to supplement your single player experience. That's supposed to turn the industry on it's head?What could be an "always-online single player solution"? Ask MS how that turned out for them, while you're at it, why don't you ask them how Microsoft's supplemental cloud computing solution has allowed the Xbox One to close the hardware gap to the PS4. I can promise you that Microsoft is way way better at cloud computing than Nintendo will ever be.

Just please before you make another post about how great of an idea this is or that is, take a while and think about where the industry is, where it came from, what Nintendo has done, what their competitors have done or plan to do, and if this idea will actually work. Take a few minutes and think long and hard about it, and see if you can think about any reasonable reasons why it wouldn't work before you start raving about how great the idea is. It might serve you well.