|_emmiwinks said:
HappySqurriel said:
saprano1 said:
HappySqurriel said:
It seems that there is an assumption that since everyone in the world did not abandon the Wii the second that Grand Theft Auto 4 was released then the Wii must be in a different market ... The people who make this assumption seem to forget that the Grand Theft Auto games have only ever sold to (at best) 10% of the market. There are other games people are using to make this claim, but there is a lot of overlap in the people who are interested in these types of games, and these games represent about 25% of existing gamers. Even though the Wii doesn't have HD graphics it does have games that apeal to these same 25% of gamers, but it doesn't focus on them exclusively like the XBox 360 and PS3 does. Any argument that the Wii doesn't compete with the PS3 and XBox 360 can easily be seen as Nintendo has decided to create a videogame system which directly targets the whole gaming maket (as well as new gamers) with their Blue-Ocean strategy, while Sony and Microsoft have decided to create niche products which appeal to the small segment of core gamers. |
If gta4 was only on ps3, that would have effected the 360. ps3 sales would have gone up, wile 360 stays normal. why? because the going after the same gamers, and those gamers want gta4. the wii is not going for that same gamer, do you think mom,dad, little sara, and billy give a crap about gta4? hell no, that why they got a wiii that week. LOL |
If 90% of existing gamers do not care about Grand Theft Auto how can you use its lack of effect on the Wii's sales as an excuse for the Wii not competing with the PS3 and XBox 360 unless you're arguing that the PS3 and XBox 360 are only targeting the 10% of gamers that are interested in Grand Theft Auto 4? |
SHAZAM! He sees the Light!! Sony and Microsoft are basically only competeing for that 10%, because when they spent the billions to develope the PS3 and 360 that 10% was nearly 100% of the gaming population. It wasnt till Nintendo that the Gaming population grew to include people that play PopCap games and Solitair. take that as you will. |
And considering how much PS360 tracks behind DC+PS2+GC+XBOX, Nintendo has taken a decent share of the previous market. Unless the market is shrinking.
There's really no way how to twist this, Nintendo is competing for the same customers with PS360.
As what it comes to "GTA proving something", it's one of the games that are in biggest competition with Wii games by its demographic, and also a thing to consider is, that Wii Fit/Mario Kart had pretty close launches with GTA4, so without them, GTA4 might have had visible effect. The thing is, that Nintendo can kill the effect of any game, released to competing platform, to its own platforms sales by releasing a game that targets different demographic. That's exactly what they did in Europe with GTA4/Wii Fit releases and in NA Nintendo put itself to direct competition with GTA4/MKWii release. What happens when PS360 gets a big "casual", Wii Fit type of game? Nintendo releases a traditional type of game and again, as much hyped as the game for the competition would be, Nintendo still would show as a big winner, since the big game didn't have any effect to Wiis sales.
M$ and Sony can either compete and get beaten by Nintendo or they can flee to upmarket and get beaten by Nintendo.
After the current generation ends and PS360 sales average to 35M, i'd like to see someone saying that:
but they didn't compete, which i think is what the OP is after.
