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saprano1 said:
HappySqurriel said:
saprano1 said:
HappySqurriel said:

It seems that there is an assumption that since everyone in the world did not abandon the Wii the second that Grand Theft Auto 4 was released then the Wii must be in a different market ... The people who make this assumption seem to forget that the Grand Theft Auto games have only ever sold to (at best) 10% of the market. There are other games people are using to make this claim, but there is a lot of overlap in the people who are interested in these types of games, and these games represent about 25% of existing gamers.

Even though the Wii doesn't have HD graphics it does have games that apeal to these same 25% of gamers, but it doesn't focus on them exclusively like the XBox 360 and PS3 does. Any argument that the Wii doesn't compete with the PS3 and XBox 360 can easily be seen as Nintendo has decided to create a videogame system which directly targets the whole gaming maket (as well as new gamers) with their Blue-Ocean strategy, while Sony and Microsoft have decided to create niche products which appeal to the small segment of core gamers.


If gta4 was only on ps3, that would have effected the 360. ps3 sales would have gone up, wile 360 stays normal. why? because the going after the same gamers, and those gamers want gta4. the wii is not going for that same gamer, do you think mom,dad, little sara, and billy give a crap about gta4? hell no, that why they got a wiii that week. LOL


If 90% of existing gamers do not care about Grand Theft Auto how can you use its lack of effect on the Wii's sales as an excuse for the Wii not competing with the PS3 and XBox 360 unless you're arguing that the PS3 and XBox 360 are only targeting the 10% of gamers that are interested in Grand Theft Auto 4?

I never said ninteno is not compeating in the same market , i said it doesn't matter.i think most of nintendos sales come from a mix of people who never played games before, and those that have. those casual people that i mentioned(mom,dad,sara,bill) really dont care about games like that.if they did ps3 would have sold 400,000 systems in america that week, not wii.

See, there is your problem right there. That kind of elitist attitude is the kind of attitude that alienated many, many people from gaming in general.

 

To be more on topic, everybody is competing with everyone. They may not be competing for YOUR money, but they are competing for EVERYONE's money. The problem is HOW they are competing for your money. The PS3 and the 360 are right now focusing from pre-adolescent, teenagers going through puberty to adults who need to do something with their testosterone levels. The Wii, on the other hand, are focusing on EVERYBODY right from the start. Period.

 

That's it. Nothing to argue about it. Just look at the games. Don't selectively ignore some titles to make your point. Include all of the titles and you will see that all the systems have games, therefore they are competing for your dollar. The problem is just that they are doing it with different strategies. The fact that the games do not interest YOU, does NOT mean they are not competing in general...they are just interesting to YOU. It is time for long-time gamers to quit acting like arrogant, aristocratic, elitist punks and accept that there are others who like to play games too, but may not be interested in the games you play, nor do they consider the games you like as the uber-fantastic games you think they are. Since this is the case, these systems can co-exist, play different strategies, yet compete for everyone's dollars at the same time. Despite using different strategies, they are selling to anybody interested in buying the systems.



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