97 Advantages of being female

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SvennoJ said:

o_O.Q said:

i'm just trying to show you that what you are saying does not hold together logically

you are claiming that women are better managers and that is fine i have no problem with that but my question is that if they are better managers or in other words leaders (because that is essentially what a manager is anyway)

how did they therefore end up as the ones being lead? i've asked this for about 3 times now and you have not given me an answer yet

"Understood that their position was more beneficial to them? lol."

this is the only thing that makes sense with regards to what you are telling me 

 

"religion enforcing the roles."

religion is a societal management system that came from men btw

Maybe I'm not understanding what you are asking?

Yes religion was mostly deminated by men and opressed women. The first female priests were not ordained until the seventies in the US, 1994 in the church of England. Witch hunts were documented from before the 1300's to the early 1900's, predominently targeted at women that were out of line.

Maybe you want to know how religion came to be dominated by males? I don't have that answer, I can only speculate.
Women were mostly tied to the cave with short lives taxed by trying to raise kids. While men were out hunting and dealing with neigbouring tribes. Tribal warfare might have been a driving factor in the us against them part during the origin of religion.

Anyway whatever it was in the ancient past that led to the status quo hasn't been relevant for a long time. It's kinda obvious that tribes where the women stayed at home and raised many kids did better than tribes that did not. Blame natural selection.

 

If I might make an interesting aside without fully derailing any conversation here:

At the time of Islam's foundation, women's rights in Arabic areas took a turn for the better. It was quite interesting learning about Islam in my World Religions class due to how progressive it sounded around the time of Muhammad. I am copying and pasting this part from Wikipedia because it will allow you to look at the sources used:

"Majid Khadduri writes that under the Arabian pre-Islamic law of status, women had virtually no rights. Sharia (Islamic law), however, provided women with a number of rights.^[24] John Esposito states that the reforms affected marriage, divorce, and inheritance.^[13] Women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later.^[25] The Oxford Dictionary of Islam states that the general improvement of the status of Arab women included prohibition of female infanticide, and recognizing women's full personhood.^[26] Gerhard Endress states: "The social system ... build up a new system of marriage, family and inheritance; this system treated women as an individual too and guaranteed social security to her as well as to her children. Legally controlled polygamy was an important advance on the various loosely defined arrangements which had previously been both possible and current; it was only by this provision (backed up by severe punishment for adultery), that the family, the core of any sedentary society could be placed on a firm footing."^[27] Muhammad also emphasised the importance of the mother figure and it is reported in many Hadiths^[which?] in which Muhammad has stated the mother is of very high status.^{[citation needed]} One hadith records that Abu Huraira reported that a person said: Allah's Messenger, who amongst the people is most deserving of my good treatment? He said: Your mother, again your mother, again your mother, then your father, then your nearest relatives according to the order (of nearness)"

 

If you ask me I would say that a lot got lost in translation. Isn't it funny how these early women's rights rose out of Sharia Law, but stoning of women under pretense of "adultery" is justifiable by many under that same law today? So many people can look at a text and understand it in so many different ways; and based upon whom you consult when learning about said texts you can be groomed to understand one explanation of it only.