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potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
 

Well of course you don't agree. That would involve entertaining the idea that the console that you've created in your head is a whole lot of wishful thinking, and acknowleding that the marketing phrases you've latched onto can be interpreted in dozens of different ways. I find it rather amusing that this whole argument has bears a striking resemblance to conversations about whether or not one's chosen religion is in fact the correct one, when they refuse to consider that they may in fact be wrong, and all of these other religions have an equal chance of being correct as theirs.

You have a lot of faith in Nintendo sir.

No, just dont have so many time to give you counter arguments and proves that I dont agree with you, over and over again, especially because we had similar conversion few months ago.

I have faith in Nintendo but I certainly didn't expect Wii/DS success with NX, but you dont have none.

Why would I have faith in Nintendo putting out a device that the average gamer wants? They haven't done that since the N64. They're a dinosaur who refused to adapt, have rested on their laurels and churn out rehash after rehash after rehash while their marketshare gets smaller and smaller and smaller. They got lucky with the Wii becoming a fad and have done absolutely nothing to keep any of that momementum going forward.  What evidence do you have to have reasonable expectations that this home console is going to do better than the last, or this handheld is going to do better than the last. There has only ever been one Nintendo home console that sold better than its predecessor. There has only ever been one Nintendo handheld that sold better than its predecessor. It's all right there for you to see, you just choose to ignore it. Maybe you've forgotten but their marketing has made grand claims for every console every single time.

For example: There was a patent Nintendo made a year or so before the Wii U's release that involved being able to take a controller from one console and sync it to another to upload things like save files, profiles etc and do things like split-screen gaming on multiple Wii U gamepads). Did that sound plausible? For sure. Did that happen? Nope.  There were also rumors swirling about at the time about Nintendo and Rockstar teaming up to create a new Nintendo franchise, and that the Wii U was going to be a direct play at trying to get the "hardcore gamer" back from Sony and MS. Did any of those happen? No, and not really. Nintendo made practically no effort in trying to convince people that that the Wii U could go toe-to-toe with the likes of the PS3 or X360, much less the PS4 or X1.

Yet here you are eating it all up. Clinging on to every rumor. Turning every phrased out of Nintendo marketing into what you believe is the best possible outcome for Nintendo's next console.You have an idea in your head of exactly what the NX will be based off of about 3 paragraphs from Nintendo, despite the fact I have pointed out multiple ways those phrases can be interpreted. You dismiss them outright. Prepare to be very disappointed if you're even willing to admit it to yourself that you were wrong. There is no way the console Nintendo puts out will even closely resemble what you believe it to be, yet I'm willing to bet when its announced you'll be shouting from the rooftops about how fantastic Nintendo is, and how they're delivering the console(s) that people want.

Well unified platform definitely isn't what average gamer wants. And if you open eyes and look what all they are doing, you will see that they changing a lot: Amiibo figrues, new account system and services, mobile games, expanding the use of their IPs (for instance Nintendo theme park), completely new unified NX platform...are all huge changes for Nintendo.

Why I think this platform will perform better than last!? Because Wii U was bloody mess, they done everything wrong with Wii U, and when you have very bad product you will try hard next time to perform much better, and everything Nintendo said about Wii U mistakes they done, NX and new platform for me is very positive. Remember, after worst selling Nintendo console to that date (GC), Nintendo had its best selling console. Thats also fact.

Again, it not just about patent, but that patient is basically what Nintendo says about new platform.

And no, I don't believe in rumours, but even those rumours are on pair what Nintendo said and their recent patents.

Yeah, themes like theme parks are huge changes for Nintendo. It's not like they've done past experienments like Super Mario TV shows, live action movies, Nintendo themed cereal and other foods, clothing, action figures, dolls, RC cars, and on and on. Are you forgetting about "The Wizard" a full-length feature commercial for Super Mario Bros. 3? This is the norm for Nintendo. They've been doing things like this for a long long time. It's what Nintendo has always done.

The Super Nintendo sold worse than the Nintendo, making the SNES the worst selling home console in Nintendo history at that time. How did the N64 do? Ohh right. It sold worse than the SNES, making that the worst selling home console in Nintendo History. So after that was the Gamecube. How did that sell? Ohh right, worse than the N64, making the Gamecube the worst selling console in Nintendo history. Your "fact" is the most blatant piece of cherry picking I've seen from a Nintendo fan in a long time. Will the NX home sell better than the Wii U? Almost undoubtedly. It can't get much worse than that!

Funny how you did not mention biggest and more important changes like new account system and services, mobile games and completely new unified NX platform.

SNES was best selling console in its own gen, N64 was second best selling console in it's gen, so both were success in one or other way. But GC was faile, worst selling console of that gen and it was sold 6x worse than best slling console of that gen, so Nintendo realise they need to change approach and they did. But with Wii U they where to relaxed and they made so many mistakes. After Wii U, you can be certain they are not "relax" at all and they will try hard to have much better product.