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potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
 

This Nintendo recent patents are basically what Nintendo talks about new consoles and platforms. Of Course, that doesnt mean that those patents will be 100% be part of NX, but I say that are good chance.

Those Nintendo NX talks and plans directly address some problems and mistakes they made with Wii U and they had in previous generations too. For instance they admit they can't any longer support two completely different platform like they done it till this gen, that leads to software droughts and weak support, and that's one of main reasons for their plan for unifed or integrated platform.

Sony made same mistakes with PS3, but with PS4 they basically corrected all those mistakes.


Nintendo's recent patents in no way indicate what will or will not be part of the NX. Look at the patents Sony made a year or so before the announcement of PS1, PS2 and PS3. Look at the patents MS made a year or two before the Xbox, Xbox 360 or Xbox One. Same goes for the same time period before any console release. A small fraction of the patents ever see the light of day, much less in the console that is released within that 1-2 year time frame. Again, it is in no way an indicator of what will be part of the NX. For all you know these could be patents relating to research into what will succeed the NX. It really does not indicate anything.

As for Nintendo talks and plans, please go ahead and reference the announcement that they will have a unified platform with a single game being plauable on multiple form factors. Ohh right! There is none! For all you know the successors to the Wii U and 3DS will be two completely seperate devices that have completely different games as Nintendo has done in the past, but the hardware's architecture is more similar making it slightly easier to make games for both separate platforms, and OS of both is designed in such a way to make it easier to do cross-platform multiplayer. There. That would be both more unified and integrated, and would do next to nothing to make any meaningful improvements to Nintendo's situation, and my scenario is equally as likely as anything you dream up. You're blatantly guessing at this point.

Again, only difrence is that those patents are basicly what Nintendo talked about new consoles and platforms.

 

Well you certainly are not familiar with Nintendo plans:

"Currently, we can only provide two form factors because if we had three or four different architectures, we would face serious shortages of software on every platform. To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with various form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms. Apple has a common platform called iOS. Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. The point is, Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples. However, we are hoping to change and correct the situation in which we develop games for different platforms individually and sometimes disappoint consumers with game shortages as we attempt to move from one platform to another, and we believe that we will be able to deliver tangible results in the future."

"A dedicated video game platform with a brand new concept" by taking into consideration various factors, including the playing environments that differ by country."

"I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”

Also Nintendo recently merged their hardware and software divisions and teams.

 

All that and NIntendo patents, indicate that they are going for unified platform that will be running same game across different devices, and that is largley accepted opinion about what NX is. Of Course, you can think different.


Care to explain to me how if Nintendo's next home and handheld consoles

a) share a similar architecture making porting games from one console to the other easier
b) shares a similar operating system that makes inter-console multiplayer easier to implement
c) are marketed as differerent platforms, with different games in different packaging.


That all the statements you listed above by Nintendo will not be technically true? Nintendo is giving you an inch and you're assuming a mile.

And again look at the patents of previous consoles. Just look at the patents Nintendo put out two years before the Wii U. I bet you'd be shocked how many of them have absolutely nothing to do with what the Wii U became even if they looked like really cool features that the Wii U totally should feature based on the things Nintendo said about it leading up to its announcement. Ohh well. That's irrelevant I guess.

I really don't understand what you trying to say, but:

a) Yes, NX home and handheld will have same or very similar architecture. Not just because porting, I think they will develop one game in same time for handheld and home console.

b) Not similar, same OS for NX console and handheld, same like multiply different devices are having iOS or Apple OS and same like they sharing same apps and games.

c) No, it will not be marketed like different platforms, it will probably be marketing like one platform with different devices that have different capabilities but that are playing same games.

My assumings are based on things Nintendo gave us or based on rumorus about NX.

Again, huge difference from previous Nintendo patents before Wii U, is that this patents are basically what Nintendo talked about new consoles and platforms.

Ohh really? So all iPad games are on the iPhone and vice versa? Ohh right. No they're not. Developers actually have to put extra, significant amounts of work in to make their game compatible on both the iPad and iPhone. So there's that. The NX could emulate the iOS marketplace almost exactly and they could still have seperate games for seperate devices in seperate packages and not be compatible with one another. It happens on iOS devices all the time.

Here's the thing you keep failing to understand. You quite literally do not know what the NX will be. You do not. You have a couple vague sentences from marketers and you're twisting that into an extact vision of what the platform is and how it will operate. You do not know that. You have absolutely no idea, and yet here you are confident you know exactly what it will be. You acting like patents are an indicator of the direction a company is heading, and it's totally different from the WIi U and NX in terms of how their patents relate to real-world products when you literally have zero tangible evidence of what the NX will be. The patents Nitendo has made of late could be less relevant to the NX as the patents Nintendo made in the year or two before the Wii U was released and you have absolutely no way to prove that argument is correct at this time.

You have no idea what the NX will be. There is no reason for you to be as confident as you are. None.

Yes, 90% of same games and apps are working on iPad and on iPhone. Devolpers need to put extra work to make game compabitible with iPad and iPhone, but that extra work is much smaller than devolping for intance same game for iPhone and Samsung Android tablet, that are having different OS and and architecture, and that's a whole point.

Again, I know what Nintendo said they planing and I know Nintendo patents that are basically same thing Nintendo already mentioned and I know about rumours, so my thinking is based on those informations. Of Course nothing is certain until the Nintendo revil NX, but I think there are good chances that NX will be what I think it will be.

So yes, I have very clear idea what NX will be, and believe me, I am not only one with that same idea.