potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Meelow said:
I agree, the reasons they are holding everything back is to make sure 2016 is truly a great year for Nintendo, yes we had a bad E3 2015, and no announcements at TGA. However this may mean E3 2016 might be on par with E3 2006 and E3 2010.
Imagine next E3 with...
- NX
- Zelda WiiU/NX
- Super Mario NX
- Retro's title
- New IP's
- Hopefully actual third party support
Nintendo has a chance to make E3 2016 truly amazing and I hope they make it happen. |
Bolded for hilariousness. If the rumors are true, development on the NX will be more expensive and time consuming than any other platform in console history by forcing developers to develop for multiple hardware specs at once. If true, the Wii U's third party support will make the NX jealous. There's no reason for third parties to take a greater financial risk on a platform whose predecessor sold absymally. Aside from that have no reason to think their games will be any more profitable than they were on the Wii or Wii U (seriously, take a good look at how many third party games made any real profit on either of those platforms) Nintendo has already announced its once again primarily focused on catering to its dwindling fanbase, which means little to no chance at this console appealing to new fans. You can absolutely forget this console becoming a fad like the Wii. Why are Nintendo diehards so convinved the NX will be astoundingly successful?
Expect an expensive console, that is expensive to develop for, with little third party support. Nintendo fans will buy one or both specs like they did with the Wii U and 3DS, except Nitnendo is cannibalizing their own sales by offering their entire software library on one platform instead of two, so many people won't buy two consoles because there is no need. Will it be a huge hit amonst Nintendo fans? Undoubtedly. Will it do more to bring Nintendo back into the mainstream of gaming? All indicators are pointing to "no". All told, if the NX is split amongst two specs, you can expect the platform as a whole to do 20-30% than the 3DS/Wii U combined. Considering the reach of such a platform, that would be a monumental failure.
Either way, the writing is on the wall. If the NX doesn't have the success Nintendo is banking on, I have no doubt that Nintendo will exit the home console space. With mobile gaming taking larger and larger chunks out of Nitnendo's handheld market, you can expect if the NX portable doesn't sell as well as the 3DS, it may be Nintendo's last foray into that space as well. It's not looking good for Nintendo, not at all.
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-Well developers in same time will be develop game for two devices in same time. We already saw Square Enix announced Dragon Quest games for NX, you can expect Monster Hunter, Yokai Watch...so Japanese publishers will certainly be on NX, and thats already more than Wii U has.
-I dont expecting expensive console, expecting $250-300 for home console and $150-200 for handheld, and third party will certainly will be stronger than its on Wii U.
"Nintendo is cannibalizing their own sales by offering their entire software library on one platform instead of two, so many people won't buy two consoles because there is no need". How many 3DS owners have Wii!? Not many, so how exatly Nintendo will cannibalizing their own sales by offering their entire software library one on platform? Actually it's reverse, Nintendo will have bigger instal base for every their game than like before releasing games for just one device, and they will have much bigger offer of games on platform than before when they had separate offer for each device, also that means no more droughts and gaps between game releases. And If Nintendo plays good with whole idea, more people will buy bought devices than they buyed 3DS and Wii U.
I think it almost certain that NX will perform much better than Wii U, and Nintendo is making money even this gen with failure like Wii U is. So I cant see the abandoning hardware market even NX dont perform like they hope.
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Really? Wii U doesn't have Japanese third party publishers already? Monster Hunter is already out on Wii U, so is Dragon Quest X. Not quite sure how your beleif a 3DS exclusive making its way to the NX home is somehow indicative of "more third party support".
As for the price, the prices you're mentioning are going to, at the very least be just as expensive as the PS4 and X1. That is a hard sell. Also, at $299, that would be the same price as the Wii U when it released. We all know how that flew off the shelves. Why would this console be any different?
How many 3DS owners have a Wii U? More than 3DS owners that have a PS4 or X1, I'd bet. Most Die hard Nintendo fans I know have both consoles (and some have multiple copies of 3DSs). In fact I don't know a single Wii U owner that doesn't own a 3DS. The fact of the matter is that all of those people that bought both just to play Nintendo's library suddenly no longer need to buy both. They can just buy one. That is in fact cannibalizing their sales. I'd counter the rest of your paragraph, but (and I don't mean to insult) I literally don't know what you're trying to say. Could you please try again?
While the NX will should perform better than the Wii U (it's pretty difficult to perform as poorly as the Wii U has), It would be a surprise if the NX platform as a whole sold more than the Wii U and 3DS. Sure Nintendo is making money, but to be honest, it's not making as much money off of video game consoles and video game sales as it once did. It's making money off of things like Amiibo, which don't seem to lead to increased console and video game sales.
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Yes, Wii U got a port of a port as far as Monster Hunter goes (originally released on Wii in 2009 & 3DS in 2011 before coming to Wii U in 2012) and an MMO for Dragon Quest. Not really comparable to what the other poster is proposing.
So end of life sales for 3DS will be something like 65 million & Wii U something like 15 million for a total of 80 million, even if NX doesn't match or exceed that and has a somewhat moderate drop to 70 million or so total for NX, that gives much greater potential for their games to sell big numbers on.
Splatoon is a successful new IP from Nintendo that is on track to sell over 3 million on Wii U alone, how much would a sequel sell on the combined install base of their next handheld & console? Assuming it does sell something like 70 million between both than a Splatoon sequel selling something like 8-10 million could certainly happen. Same goes for a game like Super Mario Maker easily 10-15 million sales. Same with Tropical Freeze, the 3 DKC games averaged 6 million, DK64 sold close to 6 million, DKC Returns sold 6 million yet Tropical Freeze is at around 1 million because it doesn't have the install base to sell to.
Then there is the fact that Nintendo can potentially diversify by not needing to release so many redundant titles, no need for 2 separate Mario Kart games as they can release one, supply it with DLC and work on a new IP or revive older racing games by Nintendo like F-Zero or Wave Race.
As for 3rd parties, ya it probably won't share all the same big western mulitplats that PS4/XB1 have but between Japanese support, child/family western support and indie support, it will have a pretty solid number of 3rd party releases which will always be supplemental titles on a Nintendo device.
Like I have said many times in the past, Nintendo doesn't care about competing head on with others, they want their own self-contained ecosystem where Nintendo and their partners can be profitable.
