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DivinePaladin said:
DonFerrari said:


How can xenoblade lukewarm Sales on one console be responsible for revive the genre for games that are older and bigger seller? Valkyries chronicles and persona besides final fantasy and ni no kuni didn't need xenoblade success to happen. If it brought new sucessfull jrpg to Wii I would considere more this theory.

If you're going to use the sales argument to show critical revival, stop now. That's not how it works. Let's talk about Earthbound's sales in that case. Xenoblade had a myriad of issues with its NA release, not the least of which was the fact that it came out months before the next console and after two years of fan begging. And that's not even touching the fact that Valkyria Chronicles didn't exactly stomp out Xenoblade in sales despite this a critical lack of JRPGs on the PS3 at the time.

 

But that's not the argument here. NnK got good praise but that was about it. It was a good story with a mediocre combat system. Persona has been as cult as could be until P4G, which even then only got praise from the Vita owners that could play it; moreover it came out around the same time as Xenoblade in the West. FF has been widely considered (with good reason) to be in the shitter since at least XIII. You're not exactly making a good argument as to why Xenoblade ISN'T a marked turning point for what was for a decade a genre falling down the mountain - especially not when you're saying "sales for some games were better, therefore you're wrong."


How can Persona be cult as cult can be and sell 340,000 in NA compared to Xenoblade (savior of the subgenre) 440,000?  Either you are arguing critical reception (which Persona 4 had a 90 compared to Xenoblade's 92) and sales/cult status don't come into it or you're arguing sales which several JRPGs had sold more than Xenoblade.  



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