Forbes: Wii U-Only Zelda Game Would be a Mistake

[zorg1000]

Soundwave said:

zorg1000 said:

It didn't work for Sega but then again Nintendo isn't Sega, u can't just say it didn't work for them so it won't work for anyone. It did work pretty well for Microsoft though when they abandoned Xbox after 4 years and the successor sold over 3x as many units.

the Wii U's problem doesn't just revolve around price, PS3 was a desirable product that just cost too much initially, Wii U was never really hugely desired so price alone wasn't going to change that and at this point nothing is going to change the general publics opinion on Wii U.

I agree a mid-generation console aimed at stealing away the PS/XB fanbase will fail, that's why I don't think Nintendo has any desire to compete head to head with them. They want a more self-contained ecosystem where they can establish a sizeable install base and profits based off software by internal teams and partners.

The problem with that last quote is that the CONSOLE business has changed tremendously and Nintendo has not. 

Look at the top 10 of every NPD. Look at the games that actually drive this business today. Does Nintendo resonate with the COD crowd? The Madden crowd? The FIFA crowd? The GTA crowd? The Fallout crowd? 

They have virtually no serious standing with what the console industry has become -- violent action games and/or jock sports games. 

And they can talk all they want about changing it, but I don't think it's realistic. The industry is what it is, and people like what they like, and the fact is you're never going to get 16-30 year olds to play cartoony games at home as their go to. 

Even people who love to use the "yeah but adults go see Pixar movies!" ... how many adults watch as many or more animated films as they do live action movies? I see maybe 1 Pixar movie every 3-4 years and everything else are "grown up" movies. 

The kids market is another headache for Nintendo because in console terms, the console market is the US and Europe and US/Euro kids by the time they get to 9/10 years old all start to become obsessed with being "cool" and playing what their older brother is playing. 

The need for cartoony/friendly games is being served by mobile games, that's where people go to scratch that itch now. That's the problem is Nintendo is too out of touch with what the industry has turned into. This is not all Nintendo's fault, it's just what the industry has become, all the trends have turned against what it is they like to provide. It's not the 80s, 90s, or even early-mid 2000s anymore. 

They will make good money with mobile games no doubt, but the console business is going to be a very tough cookie for them to crack. Their best bet is that MS bails out, giving them some room to be the defacto no.2, but if MS decides to make another console, the market becomes overcrowded and Nintendo is kinda locked in that 3rd spot because they're always a bit too slow to react to the market. 

U and I have talked about this multiple times, Nintendo games still hold a lot of weight, the problem is Nintendo expects u to buy two separate devices to have access to all of them. They are going to go on to sell something like 80 million units of hardware and 400 million units of software this generation, that's a sustainable market if they can retain most of that and with the right price/software/marketing/features they can potentially add to that number.