Sony getting away with paid online is the greatest current gen achievement so far.

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Mr Puggsly said:

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Mr Puggsly said:
For two generations people called MS greedy for paid online services. Taking that idea is now an achievement for Sony?

Also, you shouldn't call it an achievement. Since its Sony, it should be called a trophy.

Thats because Microsoft was getting away with charging people for online and people were getting back little from it. Sony saw the profitability of what Microsoft was doing but they decided to give back what people put in with their hard earned dollars. Microsoft saw that the PSN+ initiative was working they invested in it.

Oh bullshit. Giving back to the people would be not charging for online play.

Most people subscribing just want online play. If onine play was free PS+ would have a small fraction of subscribers it currently has. Just like on PS3.

I credit Sony for raising the bar in value. But the average consumer paying for these services just want online play.

Giving back= Giving the customers a sizable offering of games which matches what they were paying for. Xbox Live Gold was pure profit. Pachter even said so himself.

As for Sony, they need to get on Microsofts level with the online. This isn't going to fly.