Nem said:
Soundwave said:
You guys will never be "delighted" with the Wii U if you're not with what it already has.
Skyward Sword + Xenoblade + others late in the Wii cycle and many Nintendo fans here still call the late gen Wii cycle crap. Same thing for the GameCube. N64 was pretty weak later on too.
This is just par for the course ... Nintendo fans are never happy unless Nintendo is giving them like 80-90% of what they want. And the Wii U realistically can't have that type of commitment from Nintendo going forward.
It's legacy will be as a market failure that had a handful of good games, that's just all there is to it. Nothing is changning that now.
Sometimes Nintendo has to play the role of the "unpopular parent". A kid may cry about having to go to sleep early on a school day or not being able to eat candy for dinner ... but you as a parent can't give them everything they want. That's just all there is to it. Nintendo needs to be concerned with the overall future of the company because if NX is not successful, and successful right out of the gate at that, it's quite likely the next Zelda game you'll be playing will be on a Sony or Microsoft console and then you'll be chiding Nintendo for being so stupid as to focus on the Wii U, thus causing the NX to have to come out later than it should have or not having important IP like a new Zelda or AC available for it early in its product cycle.
Animal Crossing should not be on the Wii U. Zelda should be a launch title for the NX with the Wii U getting a release, most ideally *after* the NX launch, just like Twilight Princess. I know people don't want to hear it, but it's from a business POV the right call. Sometimes you have to be the unpopular parent. Nintendo fans will get over it, they got over Twilight Princess and the GameCube's terrible 2005 and non-existant 2006.
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"you guys"... not sure what you are refering to but ok.
If the NX is simply another home console more powerful than the Wii U, it will fail. It has no chance whatsoever. That is completely independant of what i think and what you think about some games available at launch.
We have had many examples that it doesnt matter. The Dreamcast had an incredible line-up, didnt make a difference. The Wii had a crap line-up, didnt make a difference. There is more than titles that decide the fate of a console. Its the perception of the consumer. Coming from the Wii U, Nintendo doesnt have a good perception. If this is really a new system, they have killed the Wii U about as early as SEGA killed the Saturn. What garantee will cosnumers have that they won't do it yet again once they aren't pleased with NX sales? Its the same exact thing that killed the Dreamcast.
Therefore i dont think a new home console has any chance whatsoever. It's either something aimed at the casual gamers or something that is more aimed at the portable market. To simply make a new home console without anything that sets it apart is suicide.
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Genesis released 3 years after Master System
Nintendo DS released 3.5 years after Gameboy Advance
Xbox 360 released 4 years after Xbox
All 3 of these went on to sell much more than their predecessors
Saturn released about 6 years after Genesis
PS3 released 6 years after PS2
3DS released over 6 years after DS
All 3 of these sold much worse than their predecessors
The life cycle of a console has no bearing on the success of its successor.
