nuckles87 said:
binary solo said:
People didn't go see it because it was a shit movie, not because of any particular casting choices. The movie would have been a success if it had been an actually good movie and it would still have had a black actor in a role that has historically been a white person. Michael B. Jordan's skin colour had nothing to do with this movie being a bad movie which was the sole cause of the movie flopping. So why are you trying to make out like his skin colour was a factor? Are you saying that the vast majority of potential Fantastic 4 movie watchers are sufficiently racist that they would refuse to see the movie because it has a black actor playing an historically white character? I'm pretty cynical about humanity as it is right now, but even I don't have that low an opinion of the general population.
A person's skin colour is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to any fictional role for character credibility, moreso for a character like Jonny Storm who is basically just a gung-ho, hothead, grunt. A person's age can be far more relevant to character credibility when trying to present someone as having had mature experience as a leading scientific mind. A person in their 20's who looks a bit like a Jock and a teen hearthrob (I don't see it in Teller myself, but then again I'm not a teen) just has a hard time being seen as a credible leader in the scientific community. You can have an age approprioate heart throb (Brad Pitt, for instance) play a science genius, or you can have a young person who actually looks like a science genius. But you can't have a young heart throb. Jesse Eisenberg would have been a better choice for a young looking science genius. But even so, as miscast as I think Miles Teller was, his casting into the role of Mr Fantastic was not the reason the movie was a flop.
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I would disagree. A fictional character's skin color can be quite relevant, if it is an inherent part of the character's identity. However, I would also say that this typically applies to characters belonging to minorities more often then it does to white characters, unless the society said white characters reside in is overtly racist.
That being said, Johnny Storm's race was not really inherent to his identity, and they used adoption in order to make him and Sue Storm siblings. There really isn't anything wrong with it.
Lawlight probably decided to focus on it because he just hates the idea of SJWs having an influence on our media, and seeks to lay the failure of the movie squarely at their feet. I mean, I was fine with the change. I skipped out on the movie because the reviews were DISASTOROUS. I'm pretty sure that's why most people skipped out on it. XD
I mean, on the other side of the coin, I doubt people skipped The Last Airbender because all the characters were made white. Sure, their skin colors were actually RELEVANT to their identities and made them stick out in societies that were almost entirely composed of minorities, but that's not why the movie flopped. The movie flopped because it was, again, AWFUL.
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