Fantastic Four 2 no longer on Fox's release schedule

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Lawlight said:

binary solo said:

Clearly, racebending had nothing to do with the commercial failure of this movie. So why did you even bring it up? This movie was a PoS confirmed by the opinions of reviewers and many people who actually wasted their money by paying to see it. The race of any one of the characters had nothing to do with the shittiness of the movie.

To me the biggest miscast was Miles Teller. I've never rated him as an actor, even in good movies. And it was completely wrong to cast a young person in the role of Mr Fantastic. It was a cyncial appeal to the Youth audience, and it failed miserably.

Because people didn't go and see it? Similarly to how Miles Teller was a cynical appeal to the youth audience, casting Jordan was a cynical appeal to pander to the "progressive" crowd.

People didn't go see it because it was a shit movie, not because of any particular casting choices. The movie would have been a success if it had been an actually good movie and it would still have had a black actor in a role that has historically been a white person. Michael B. Jordan's skin colour had nothing to do with this movie being a bad movie which was the sole cause of the movie flopping. So why are you trying to make out like his skin colour was a factor? Are you saying that the vast majority of potential Fantastic 4 movie watchers are sufficiently racist that they would refuse to see the movie because it has a black actor playing an historically white character? I'm pretty cynical about humanity as it is right now, but even I don't have that low an opinion of the general population.

A person's skin colour is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to any fictional role for character credibility, moreso for a character like Jonny Storm who is basically just a gung-ho, hothead, grunt. A person's age can be far more relevant to character credibility when trying to present someone as having had mature experience as a leading scientific mind. A person in their 20's who looks a bit like a Jock and a teen hearthrob (I don't see it in Teller myself, but then again I'm not a teen) just has a hard time being seen as a credible leader in the scientific community. You can have an age approprioate heart throb (Brad Pitt, for instance) play a science genius, or you can have a young person who actually looks like a science genius. But you can't have a young heart throb. Jesse Eisenberg would have been a better choice for a young looking science genius. But even so, as miscast as I think Miles Teller was, his casting into the role of Mr Fantastic was not the reason the movie was a flop.