360 Numbers don't add up!

[Monty]

Wii_gamer said: Nobody has yet agreed with you Monty. The latest figure on the front page is UP TO DATE AS OF SUNDAY NIGHT. It is as current as you can get. Total sales for Xbox360 worldwide upto that point is 8.3m. There are 2.1m 'stocks' around the world - this comes about because stores order loads in to anticipate the big christmas rush, it's a common thing that Sony and Nintendo do as well. Shipments will probably be low for the next couple of months as the christmas stock is gradually used up. Xbox360 sold below expectations this christmas, that is why stock is still left. You can pull numbers from here and there and play with them but the figures are there. North America includes USA, Canada, Mexico (Around 10% higher than USA alone so you can easily estimate this yourselves from raw NPD as many of you have been to give ~5.2m using the early estimates which have been made public - which range from 2m in Nov / Dec to 550k Nov and 1.2m Dec and is actually somewhere between these two). Others includes Europe, Asia excluding Japan, Australia, Africa etc (mainly Europe) of which the UK is the biggest market with 900k sold and France 2nd with 350k. All other countries are much lower than this. Japan is self explanatory and has been tracked by Famitsu / Media Create. To keep suggesting that Canada + Mexico (that well known gaming region lol) account for more than 800k sales is absurd and defies all logic. This is the major an obvious flaw in your agrument. The actual figure is less than 350k - I have it here so trust me please. Just under 10% of USA is the rule of thumb people have been using for years and it fits in most cases.

Don't yell at me for other's suggesting to me that the site was out of date. You can read back for yourself... I am not the one that said that. I just said that I'd agree with it, if that's what *their* claim was. As for the NA argument, we've been through that a million times. Unless you can show me a source that shows Mexico sales, you're just pulling stuff out of your butt, as you are claiming I am. What I do know is that Canada's population is 10% of the US, and it is HIGHLY likely they sell 10% of the US alone. So, what you're telling me is that Mexico sells ZERO consoles. What I also know is that YOU just told me YOU believe that the rest of NA totals 10% of the US. Then you tell me that YOU have the number and it is "under 350k". According to vgcharts, 5.38 units have been sold in NA. If I take out YOUR 350k figure, that is still above 5 million for the US. Using YOUR 10% figure, means that NA at least sold 500k. WHICH MEANS YOUR OWN FIGURES MAKE NO SENSE! You're either lying about the 10% or the 350k. Personally, I think it's both. And I'm supposed to "trust you"? But, again... I can keep responding to these all day and recycling the same conversation. It is entertaining to me to see what you guys are coming up with.