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Perhaps a better title for this thread would have been "Konnichiwa vs the world"

Why do these threads always follow this same progression of degenerating into Comparison of consoles and upcomming game lists. And why do the Sony fans bring up the same points over and over after they've been shot down over and over everytime in one of these threads derail? Do they keep using the same old defeated excuses for why the the Wii is winning and the PS3 isn't in hopes that a new person in the thread will somehow be swayed by their words and convert? Are they under the impression that we forgot every debate before this one and have never seen them try to pull a fast one before?