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potato_hamster said:

I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with "not all Nintendo fans have the same tastes". Well obviously not. No Wii U game has sold 10M+ copies has it? But there are the people that will always buy Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zelda, and Mario every single generation for example. There are also people that will always buy Paper Mario and Animal Crossing every generation. Those people are buying the latest of those series regardless of what Nintendo does and will buy Nintendo consoles every generation just to play the new version of those games.

It's hilarious that Nintendo fans keep grouping home consoles and handhelds together arbitrarily to mask the fact that, aside from the Wii and 3DS every single home console sold less than its predecessor, and every single handheld sold less than its predecessor. That's are the hard facts. No amount of convenient grouping to skew that data means anything. if you want to pretend that Nintendo sales haven't declined over the years then it's no skin off my back.

To those who may be unfamiliar:
NES+Famicom: 61M
SNES+Super Famicom:  49M
N64: 33M
Gamecube: 22M
Wii: 101M
Wii U:  10M (might end up at 15 M)

Now to anyone with any bit of common sense, that is a clear and obvious downward trend with an outlier in the Wii. However, to some diehard Nintendo fans that is consistent sales. You can be the judge.

But again, Nintendo is only doomed if continue to only cater to Nintendo fans. It really comes down to this primary question: How is the NX going to appeal to a demographic enought to buy an NX which had little to no interest in buying the Wii U? Where are these additional sales going to come from? Who is going to buy the NX besides Nintendo fans?

Will the NX home do better than the Wii U? Well i really hope so, because if not, Nintendo is probably out of the home console game and that's bad for everyone. Will it do better than say, the N64? I really doubt it at this point.


I block together consoles with handhelds because we are talking about NINTENDO as a whole, not just one specific part of their business. Pretending handhelds don't exist to prove Nintendo is doomed makes about as much sense as saying Apple is doomed because iPod sales are declining. Handhelds make up roughly 70% of Nintendo hardware sales of the last 15 years, do u really think it's logical to completely brush them aside when talking about whether or not a company is "doomed"? So when talking about Nintendo as a whole, they had consistent sales for 4 consecutive generations, one hyper inflated generation, followed by one single generation of decline which is a rather modest decline if we pretend Wii/DS don't exist since they are a fluke according to u.

Also every handheld sold less than the previous? So it makes sense to compare a device that spanned 2 generations and 12 years without a successor to a device that was succeeded in less than 4? Gameboy vs Gameboy Advance if u didn't catch on. Calling that a decline is ignoring so many things that it can't even be taken seriously.

3DS/Wii U had so many problems that affected sales, it can't simply be blamed on "less and less people are willing to buy Nintendo hardware for Nintendo games". Price, droughts, marketing, features, etc. contributed to 3DS/Wii U selling the way they have.



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