potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
potato_hamster said:
Miyamotoo said:
Why people acting like Wii does not exist if it was just light in a bottle!?
Actually I think this two + form factors will more attractive for third party developers because in same time they can develop one game for handheld and home console and just one device. They will certainly not must to develop for more devices, they can develop just for device if they want. With all Nintendo plans regardless NX, NX will have much better third party support than Wii U (which frankly is not so difficult to achieve).
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People act like the Wii didn't exist because it was an anomoly. Nintendo failed to carry any momentum for the Wii and its downward trend in sales continued as if the Wii never happened. There is no reason to expect the NX will enjoy Wii levels of success.
I don't know why you think they won't force developers to support every form factor if the games are supposed to be cross compatible. I thought the entire premise of this was "one cartridge - multiple consoles". If that isn't the case and the NX is two entirely seperate consoles with entirely seperate games that just so happen to have similar specs then that's fine and dandy - the cost of developing the NX wont be any different than developing for the Wii U.
However, what reason do you have to think that the NX will have "much better" third party support. I remember hearing very very similar statements about the Wii U vs the Wii. If the Wii proved anything, its that with few exceptions, third parties don't sell well on Nintendo consoles anymore, even if the console sales are over 100 million. What reason do you really have to think the NX will be any different unless the third party games are better on the NX than they will be on other consoles?
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Anomaly or not Wii happend and it's legit home console. Sony also failed failed to carry any momentum for the PS3, but they learned their lessons and they release PS4. I think there is no person that is expecting Wii success for NX, but definitely will be much successful than Wii U is and probably more successful than N64.
Why they would force developers to support every form factor!? That would be counterproductive, many third parties would simply said I don't want do that. Not every game suits for handheld or that suits for home console, saying that Nintendo needs to make very attractive for developers to develop game for more factor, not to force them. Of Course Nintendo will use most of this platform, because whole point of is that they prevent software droughts, but you cant expect that 100% game will compatible with all devices, for instance some of home console games will use maximum power of hardware and it will not able to play on handheld, but there is no reason why every handheld game could not be played on home console.
First it will have much simpler hardware (ARM or x86) for developing and porting games than Wii U had, maybe very similar to Xbox One/PS4. Second, in same time third party can develop one game for handheld and home console, that will be very attractive for lotsa third parties espacily Japanese. Third, Nintendo now has much better communication and better devs kit than they had when Wii U was launch, just look how they now treating Indies, with NX that will be case from the start. Fourth, NX will have better sales that Wii U because Nintendo will not repeat same mistakes, like terrible name, terrible and confusing marketing, bad launch lineup, high price...also Wii U had solid third party support at launch but after terrible sales all abandon them in first year. Wii U prove NIntendo that they cant suport console alone and they will do whats nessary to make NX very attractive for third party. NX will have much better third party support than Wii U, but reality is that Wii U doesn't have third party at all.
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I thought that was the entire concept of the unified platform - One game, multiple devices. If a parent goes and buys a cartridge for their NX Home and it only works in the NX handheld even though the cartridges look exactly the same, there will be massive confusion worse than naming a brand new console "Wii U". If the cartridges are different then parents will have to buy mutliple copies for all of their devices, and it would be the no different than the 3DS or Wii U is now - except for the cost to develop for both NX home and NX handheld would be marginally smaller.
If nintendo is going to market the NX as the same console in different form factors all games have to work for all form factors, otherwise you are looking at an enormous disaster.
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Off course, that is part of a concept, we can still assume but I think that will be case of one same game for multiple devices, but that doesnt mean that every game will work on multiple devices, probably very small number of games will work only for home console. I think 80-90% of Nintendo games will work on multiple devices.
Even if cartridges will be completely different (which I really doubt) for NX home and NX handheld consoles, how exactly that can be worse confusion than people thinking that Wii U a completely new console, is a addon for Wii console that was already dead and nobody wanted!? In this cartridge situation people can just return they cartridge and replace it, but in Wii U situation people did not consider at all buying Wii U because of confusion, that had huge impact on terrible Wii U sales.
I dont think Nintendo will market NX as same console because it not same consoles, handheld and home console cant be same. They will probably market NX like platform of home and handheld consoles that will have heavy integration, and that can share majority of same games and features.
