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BCNR34 said:
Slimebeast said:

Microsoft already won against Sony this generation.

* We, with a little help from Nintento, reduced the amount of Playstations from 115 million to 60 million, while increasing the amount of Xbos from 24 million to 50 million. Sony dominance is gone.

* We are profitable.

* We conquered the mindset of gamers and MS is now a reliable and true player in this business.

* We are now as cool as Sony. Today it's not only "hip" to own a Playstation brand, but an Xbox 360 is considered as "hip" as well.

* We are now the platform of choice for developers, securing exclusives for X360 and multi-platform games.

* We have are eyes set for the next gen. MS learned from it's mistakes this gen (hardware issues, timing of price drops for gaining momentum), and MS will launch an even stlonger XBOX 3, of course 1 year earlier than PS4. Next gen MS will beat Sony in every area (profitability, exlusives, consoles sales etc).


 what the hell?

1. last time i checked, there are 42.72 million xboxes and aproximately 260 million playstations in the world.

2. 89m in a division that combines a number of things is hardly "profitable" you can't even prove they're profiting. esp after the EU price cut.

3. reliable? looooool

4. "cool"? what the hell does that matter? microsoft has never been "cool" anyways, everyone ive ever talked to hates microsoft as a company, largely due to failures to make decent software (and hardware).

5. you are not the "platform of choice" for developers, last time i checked, thats the wii.

6. how the hell could you possibly know MS is going to beat Sony next gen, when you know absoloutely nothing about how this gen is going to end, or how the next one is going to start? or the consoles being released? sony could pull another ps1 or ps2 and sell 100m consoles, where as microsoft is going to do what? pull an xbox? sell LESS than they will this generation? nintendo or sony will win the next generation, as well as this generation. microsoft will NEVER win a console race.


You are fail.

Mummelman you can read this too.

1. In the end of this gen, in 2011-12, there will be 50 million X360s sold and 60 million PS3s. That's a huge win for MS compared to 24 mill Xbox vs 115 mill PS2 in last gen.

2. Yes, the X360 is profitable now. The last 2 Q reports show that, and it will continue.

3. I didn't mean hardware reliability. I meant that MS in the eyes of consumers is now a reliable and established player in the console business. Reliable in the sense that you know MS will stay in this business and offer the first machine in every gen. If you want to jump on next gen early, you'll know MS will be there for you.

4. "Cool" matters because it has to do with the marketing aspects in this business. Just listen to Kaz Hirai and his homeboys over the years. Just look at the MTV inspired Sony commercials over the years. People hate MS, yes, but X360 is considered to be a great brand now. Nowadays even thugs think X360 is the true shit.

5. More games are released for the X360 than for any other console. At least more than to the PS3. Devs love the X360.

6. The trend is Xbox is in an upward spiral (24 mill--->50 mill) while PS is going downwards (115 mill--->60 mill). In next gen Xbox 3 will outsell the PS4, going by trends.

PooperScooper said:
slimbeast - you don't know how the RRoD will effect next gen consumers. They might be like "MS making another console? Psh no thanks I dont want to live through that RRoD again"

 

Ps2 had hardware fail, remember? That didn't affect the PS3 because Sony took care of the quality issue. MS will do the same.