Will Battlefront have online splitscreen?

[DivinePaladin]

ohmylanta1003 said:

DivinePaladin said:

If you read my post before replying bud, you'd see the word "likely." If Microsoft took out the most Halo part of Halo 5 because not enough players use it anymore, then it's likely that not enough players use it. Is it 5%? No, it's probably less. I doubt any more than 500k players (of what will probably be 10m lifetime sales) would use splitscreen online more than once or twice to test it out. I'd be surprised if more than 10% of the BF install base will even have two controllers! Again, are there solid numbers? No, and there never will be, but I'm not arguing on numbers, I'm arguing on logic and using my background in game design and technology.

 

It's entirely unreasonable to expect them to be able to compromise a good amount of the game just to TRY and make it work, with no guarantees it even can work well enough to ship with the game. It's a gamble when you have to cut the framerate, probably cut the resolution, and even then HOPE your players have enough bandwidth available to render the entire game twice, from two different angles. The game's already pretty laggy as it is - given, it's a beta, so that's understandable. 

 

As for the bet, do you genuinely believe any other series is gonna do any sort of split screen, let alone online? I have my doubts that Battlefront 2 will even have offline split screen when it comes out in about two years. Splat2n probably won't have online split screen, not that that's 8th gen, Halo 6 won't, CoD had it like once, Battlefield MIGHT add it just because they have the engine coded for it already. Destiny doesn't and won't addit. Horizon, if we're calling that casual, won't based on how that game seems to work. And that's the entire market of casual FPS right there for you. Far Cry won't, if that's gonna be considered casual too. Only other casual shooter that might is Gears of War 4. There's not gonna be some uprising of a new big FPS series outside of Horizon either, because the market is full as it is. The best hope we'd have for online split screen is Resistance but Sony torched that ship long ago and the only developer crazy/awesome enough to do it is Insomniac. 

Please don't imply that I didn't read your post. It's fairly obvious from my response that I did, so there's no reason to even address that in your response. Can I not respond to your post simply because you put the word "likely" in front of it? That seems kind of odd. Also, stop making up numbers. You have no idea what these numbers are and your guesses aren't even based off of anything. Therefore, I'm not even going to talk about that part of your post.

Resolution would likely not have to be lowered and lowering the frame rate is something that's been done in the past. As for the laginess you're experiencing, I've heard nothing but glowing reviews about the beta in terms of connection. It's not laggy. That's you bruh.

As for the bet, I don't have to read your explanation as to why you don't think any game will have splitscreen to know that I would still like to take the bet. Are we talking about any splitscreen then? If so, I'd love to take the bet. Should be an easy one for you considering how confident you are.

Theorizing isn't making up numbers. I'm, again, if you fully read through everything, theorizing, and not considering these numbers fact in any way. This is on a forum based around making up numbers, mind you, so it's not like I'm some sort of outlier. 

 

They'd have to down-res the assets to accommodate doubling what's being rendered , from two different viewpoints. There's no way the console can run two full FPSes as you want it to without being insanely optimized. Like end of gen optimized. Again, if Microsoft took it out, when that was one of Halo's defining features, what makes you think anybody else is gonna do it? Genuinely, real question, what makes you think this?

 

And lastly, yet again, if you were fully reading my post, you'd have noted "casual shooter." I don't have a doubt that like two or three other games are gonna have splitscreen, but I can't name another FPS outside of the Battlefront series that will have any sort of splitscreen. Again, I legitimately want to hear your reasoning on why you think any of the other big name shooters are going to have it, or why you think a new shooter is gonna come along for casual gamers that has it.