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Imaginedvl said:

How can you seriously believe Sony would not kick Microsoft out of the gaming market if they could? Same goes from Microsoft. Both of them are here to win and sometime Sony wins, sometime Microsoft does. But both are big corporations (none are evil tho, only idiotic fanboys see it that way), both are businesses that cares about one thing : money and profits :) And if they can kill a competitor in the process, they will...

And Sony would buy market share if they could (they did actually lately exactly what Microsoft did with the 360...)...
Also bashing Microsoft's IP is just your own oppinion, as I can genuely say the same from Sony's IP... (will not even start to say my oppion on that because it will derail the thread). So no, "we do not know" they breed hardly creating IP. This is LARGELY tainted by Sony or Microsoft supporters. For Sony supporters, Microsoft's IP are bad... For Microsoft's supporters > Sony's IPs are bad and quite boring... If you look at each AAA IPs from each side and how much they sell each, it is kind of equivalent. I will even argue that MS is coming out with more interresting new IPs (to me) right now with the Xbox One but again, matter of oppinion and preferences.

Only thing is that neither Microsoft or Sony can kick the other one out of the ring... Which is awesome for the consumers :)

Both are not trying to do that.  I suspect Sony could rid MS of the console space rather easily; It's not in their best interest to do so though because they benefit from the competition. MS conversely created Xbox to stop Playstations growth as a brand in what they percieved as a threat to the PC space.  Additionally the means to which each company are willing to go through for success is not parallel to each other.  We have little to few examples of Sony buying their success as opposed to generating it, or devaluing their brand to maintain marketshare.  On a moral level, I find it much easier to justify the purchase of a PS4 over an X1.

@ the bold - This is not a matter of your opinion on the fun factor of first party titles.  This is a matter of your opinion on 1st party IP creation.

And just to iterate - 

 

Halo - Bought from an independent company.

Gears of War - Bought from an independent company.

Minecraft - Bought from an independent company.

Fable - Bought from an independent company. 

 

What major IPs are left afterward that they had a hand in creating?

Forza; There's more, I know there's more so I'm sure you'll be able to list them off.

 

PenguinZ said:

I think I really need to be educated on why the PlayStation brand is an underdog that turned the tables.... 

Sony the company was the underdog, you know this from reading one of my previous posts.  By extension of that, and given the massive loss of marketshare during the 7th gen world wide, let alone in the US, you can say from looking at sales trends that they came into the 8th gen as an underdog - We had a bankrupt Sony and the massive failure that was the PS3 combined with the then recent PSN hacking.  They were absolutely an underdog who were operating on razor thin margins.  

Normchacho said:
Holy shit are we doing this? Really guys?

I just wanted the "Good vs Evil" to be taken out of the title... to avoid this :P