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Xxain on 08 October 2015
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Hiku said:
Xxain said:
Hiku said:

You should have seen how he looked in SMT IV....
http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130906211305/megamitensei/images/b/b9/Lucifer_smt_4.png

He does have a winged form though.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150226033803/megamitensei/images/b/ba/Lucifer_II_SMTIV.jpg

What you're seeing in SMTIVf is a redesign of these horrible designs.
Like this:

Thats not so much a redesign, but looks like they got a better to artist. Its kinda old pokemon art (gen1) vs new art (gen2), same designs just better interpretation of them.  (same artist still draws pokemon but you get the point)

Redesign:
1. Design (something) again in a different way.
2. To revise in appearance, function, or conten.

Changing the fundamental concept is not the only thing that falls under that definition.
When there's a significant amount of changes, like redrawing something from scratch in a completely different artstyle, pose, color variety and detail, it's fair to call that a redesign as well.
I've used the term "cleaning up Nirasawa's work" as well before. You can type out a longer definition if you want, but if one word is enough to be understood by the reader, then I prefer that rather than typing out extra words needlessly. This is just semantics anyway. The point is, she looks completely different, and everyone is happy about it.

Huuuh? ... The design of Medusa is exactly the the same. Nothing has be added or removed;they just got a much better artist. Your definition is correct, but non of that happened here. If you took 2 artist and had them both draw  classic Cloud Strife, they will look different, not because its a redesign everybody just draws diffrent. 

 Your second sentence in your second paragraph is so broad. If I decide to to draw Sonic using water color, thats not a redesign. Changing Sonics pose does not pass as redesign. Changing color and detail  Is even a stretch - Ichigo wears tons of different outfits throughout bleach, I dont think anybody considers them a redesign. 

Classic Ifrit vs Nomura Ifrit is a redesign 

Classic Sonic vs Modern Sonic is a redesign 

Medusa left looks waaaay better, still same design though.