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Soundwave said:

There are several things stopping them. Most notably the fact that Sony and MS aren't stupid and won't just give Nintendo that audience back. 

If it was so easy to get that audience back Nintendo would have at some point in the last 20 years gotten around to doing it. 

Nintendo would fundamentally have to change their company in much more dramatic ways than what most of their fanbase thinks because they are out of touch with today's teenager/young college male. 

Nintendo gonna money hat exclusives and DLC? Nope. Nintendo gonna market on the NFL on Sundays? Nope. How about FIFA for Europe or NHL for Canada? Nope and nope. Will Nintendo tone down all the Disney-character properties in favor of making more violent action game IPs like Uncharted, God of War, Gears of War, Halo, etc. Nope. Nintendo going to dramatically reinvest in Western big money (and big risk) studio ventures, the way Sony has who has basically scaled back their Japanese development to almost nada? Nope. 

Sony/MS know what they're doing with that audience, for Nintendo to seriously compete in a lot of ways would mean altering the company in ways that would be way out of their comfort zone. 

Talk to the kid who's buying a PS4/XB1 instead of a Wii U. You will see when you talk to enough of that audience ... Nintendo is not even in the conversation. Some of them maaaaybe bought a Wii as a party machine thing to play with the girlfriend, but never as a replacement for their 360 or PS3. And now that that fad is over, Nintendo's basically just right back to selling consoles only to the same group of Nintendo fans. 

Beyond that there isn't room in the industry for three companies doing basically the same thing. Never has been, never will be. Wii is the only outlier and that's only because they went out of their way to target a completely different audience. Which was a smart play, too bad they screwed up with that audience too. 


Sony and Microsoft don't have a choice. This isn't kindergarten. You don't share installed base. They don't own customers. They have nothing to give. If Nintendo have compelling hardware that appeals to that audience, there's literally nothing they can do about that audience choosing to go to Nintendo. It has nothing to do with being "stupid" or "letting" Nintendo get anything.

I hope you aren't honestly trying to imply that the reason Nintendo lost so much of their audience isn't because Nintendo have done a shit job with consoles over the past 20 years, but because big-bad Sony and Microsoft stole the audience and won't give it back.

They already do moneyhat exclusives. Their marketing efforts worked fine with the Wii, so insinuating that they couldn't possibly figure out a way to market the NX either is hilariously incorrect. Who ever said they'd need to tone down anything in order to support a more diverse library of new western appealing IP? Not me. Disney sure didn't need to.

Nintendo is all about operating outside of their comfort zone. They just made a $100m investment explicitly to operate outside their comfort zone. I see no reason outside of your own personal unreasonable doubt why Nintendo couldn't or wouldn't invest well in any of the things you mentioned, or why we shouldn't believe that they could already doing it right now behind the scenes.

That kid is buying those systems over the Wii U because they are better systems with less problems with more games that the Wii U will never get. Comparing that and saying the NX can't succeed because "Nintendo's bad console didn't appeal to anyone" is silly. If Nintendo makes good hardware with a large enough library of games, those people will buy it. There's no magical Nintendo curse that makes it impossible for Nintendo to sell console hardware to the mainstream audience. There is absolutely room for three consoles. Nintendo releasing hardware duds isn't proof of the opposite. It's merely proof that Nintendo has, in the past, released weird ass hardware duds.