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Soundwave on 04 October 2015
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spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

Pretty sure MS is already hiring hardware engineers for the next XBox. So that "no XBox" fantasy can probably die right now. Would've been nice for Nintendo since they haven't done well with the core audience since MS arrived and basically just assumed the no.2 role right from Halo launch. 

Before that Nintendo wasn't doing great with that crowd but at least with things like GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, NBA Courtside, 1080, Star Wars games, etc. they were some what relevant. After Nintendo allowed themselves to get beat by even the original XBox, it went all downhill, Nintendo basically got locked out of that audience entirely and so today when the casuals bailed out on Nintendo, you have a pretty predictable situation of no one but Nintendo fans being interested in a Nintendo home console. 

You've simply handed over too much of your audience to the likes of Sony/MS on one end, and then Apple/Google (casuals) on the other end without putting up a fight for either one. 


Lmao, who ever said there would be no hardware? I've been saying the next Xbox hardware would basically be a PC-console, akin to what Steam is trying to do with their Steam Machines. Of course they'd call that hardware Xbox. Why wouldn't they?

There's absolutely nothing stopping Nintendo getting a significant part of either audience back, especially the mainstream western "core" audience.


There are several things stopping them. Most notably the fact that Sony and MS aren't stupid and won't just give Nintendo that audience back. 

If it was so easy to get that audience back Nintendo would have at some point in the last 20 years gotten around to doing it. 

Nintendo would fundamentally have to change their company in much more dramatic ways than what most of their fanbase thinks because they are out of touch with today's teenager/young college male. 

Nintendo gonna money hat exclusives and DLC? Nope. Nintendo gonna market on the NFL on Sundays? Nope. How about FIFA for Europe or NHL for Canada? Nope and nope. Will Nintendo tone down all the Disney-character properties in favor of making more violent action game IPs like Uncharted, God of War, Gears of War, Halo, etc. Nope. Nintendo going to dramatically reinvest in Western big money (and big risk) studio ventures, the way Sony has who has basically scaled back their Japanese development to almost nada? Nope. 

Sony/MS know what they're doing with that audience, for Nintendo to seriously compete in a lot of ways would mean altering the company in ways that would be way out of their comfort zone. 

Talk to the kid who's buying a PS4/XB1 instead of a Wii U. You will see when you talk to enough of that audience ... Nintendo is not even in the conversation. Some of them maaaaybe bought a Wii as a party machine thing to play with the girlfriend, but never as a replacement for their 360 or PS3. And now that that fad is over, Nintendo's basically just right back to selling consoles only to the same group of Nintendo fans. 

Beyond that there isn't room in the industry for three companies doing basically the same thing. Never has been, never will be. Wii is the only outlier and that's only because they went out of their way to target a completely different audience. Which was a smart play, too bad they screwed up with that audience too.