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Scisca said:

Nah, I disagree. Gen 7 was very long, but don't forget that PS360 were cutting edge when they entered the market.  On the other hand PS4 has been outdated day 1. PS4 and Xbone are nothing special, their specs are totally average, there is no way around it. This gen will be shorter and faster adoption rate makes it even easier to do. Instead of ridiculously expensive future-proof consoles, we get cheaper consoles with a shorter lifespan. This gen will easily be 2-3 years shorter, mark my words.

Don't use the PS2 example, it's unfair and you are clearly doing it wrong. When PS2 hit the market, it was what dreams were made of and it was the most powerful console on the market. It also came after PSX, which dominated the market and it has been on the market for 1-1.5 year before the more powerful GCN and Xbox were released, so it had a lot of time to build its position. On the other hand, NX is gonna enter a market where Xbone is already established, while PS4 is universally beloved and destined to repeat the PS2 success story. Sorry, but there is no place for a weaker console. It would be a second Wii U tragedy, nobody would care about it. People would compare the consoles and go "PS4 has a larger library, better graphics in upcoming multiplats and my friends already have one". Also the brand of Nintendo is nowhere near as strong as that of PlayStation and PS4 will possibly be as cheap as $299. So again, where is the selling point of such a console? UI? Give me a break. Such a console would have nothing to draw people's attention to. If they want Mario to be the only selling point, they can as well stick with the Wii U till the end of the gen.


That doesn't matter when they are making more money. As long as the systems are selling, Sony and Microsoft will continue making them, and they will sell for a long time because absolutely no one cares how they stack up to PCs. These consoles have a better chance of selling for longer, not less.

The PS2 was the weakest console on the market, what are you talking about? No body cares about having the strongest console, as long as they get all the same games and they run well, as proven by the objectively weaker PS2. It wouldn't be a second Wii U, because the NX won't be a generation weaker than its competition like the Wii U was.

The argument that Playstation is a stronger brand is highly debatable to the point of farcehood. Nintendo has objectively stronger brands in the form of its IP, and the Wii proved in recent history that Nintendo can brand products that out sell Playstation post PS2. Every Nintendo portable has outsold every playstation portable by a lightlyear. But Nintendo's brand is "nowhere near as strong?" Get out of here. At worse, they are equally as strong. At best, Nintendo clearly edges them out in actual brand power. Playstation couldn't dream of having a theme park, or a successful line of multimedia content based on their Playstation brand alone. Nintendo has been eating shit for years, and could wake up in 20 years to some of the most successful movies, TV shows, toys, and theme parks on the Nintendo name alone. Nintendo has been doing bad because they've been releasing crappy products, not because their brand is weak.

There's no way in hell the PS4 is reaching the 150m hights that PS2 did, so no, it won't be a PS2 success story. It'll be a PS1 success story, maybe 10m or 20m more than that (I'd bet on 115m personally), only with much better competition in the form of the XBO and likely the NX, both of which will absolutely sore past the pitiful 30m installed base that was the PS1's competition, the N64.

Like I said, I already knew people would scoff at the idea of a good UI selling a console platform massively. And I don't blame you. It's never been done on consoles. You probably can't wrap your head around what that even means. It's so abstract and alien. "Better menus will sell the NX? Bah-humbug!" Sounds silly. But that's exactly what sold the iphone, and that's what will sell the NX. A really good UI. Everything else was already being done well enough on the Blackberry and even the Sidekick before it. Then the iphone came in with it's fancy UI, OS, and firmware and birthed the smart phone. I'm not going to get mad that you can't understand it. You will when you see it. Like, immediately. In fact, I'm sure many will as early as when the membership program launches.

Don't know why you brought up Mario being the only selling point though. It's not. It's the platform. That's the selling point.