If the NX released both the handheld and home consoles at the same time...

[Scisca]

spemanig said:

Scisca said:

We'll see. I honestly doubt that a home console weaker than PS4 will take off. I mean, it'll already be 3 years on the market!! 3 years later and Nintendo would give a weaker console? Can't see it happening. And 2 years after that, so 3 years from now, people will already be starting to get hyped for PS5, so an NX more powerful than PS4 would end up just like the Wii U - getting slaughtered by the hype for a more powerful console.

Nah, can't see it work. I believe that a mandatory part of the Apple policy is making sure that their products are cutting-edge, or at least are top of the line. That's a big part of what people get excited for. Ignoring this part and releasing an underpowered console when so many people already consider PS4 weak is asking for it.

Lol, I think that a console weeker than the XBO can take off! As long as it isn't Wii U levels of weaker. I think there's strong likelihood of it being a bit weaker than the XBO. I also don't think we'll see anything close to manefestations of the successors of the PS4 or XBO until at least 2021. You're in for a long-ass generation. Gen 7 was long and these consoles are selling better.

People but Apple products for the UI experience. It's the firmware people like more than the hardware. That's not to say the good hardware isn't part of it, it is, but that isn't where most of their sales come from, and I think the same will be true for the NX. The big thing to sell it will be the UI experience. I know people will read that and scoff at the idea, "I buy consoles for the games, not for the menus," but I genuinely think that this is what Nintendo is banking on with the NX. Not just the unified platform, but a brand of "smart consoles" that put a heavy focus on having an extremely powerful and modern OS and UI for a convenience and user experience not yet seen in consoles. That's what will be cutting edge about the platform. And for that, the hardware just has to be good enough. Just less than the XBO is more than good enough. That doesn't mean it can't be more powerful than the PS4, I just don't expect it to be. The PS2 demolished the more powerful XB and GCN, but it was still on par with them. It was good enough to get multiplats. I think the NX will be within that power range. And I think that will be more than enough. The only people who consider's the PS4 weak are PC enthusiasts.

Like, I think that if the PS4 was weaker than the XBO, it would still be selling this well. Its success has almost nothing to do with being more powerful than the XBO. It has everything to do with good marketing and the XBO being a PR catestrophy pre-launch.

Nah, I disagree. Gen 7 was very long, but don't forget that PS360 were cutting edge when they entered the market.  On the other hand PS4 has been outdated day 1. PS4 and Xbone are nothing special, their specs are totally average, there is no way around it. This gen will be shorter and faster adoption rate makes it even easier to do. Instead of ridiculously expensive future-proof consoles, we get cheaper consoles with a shorter lifespan. This gen will easily be 2-3 years shorter, mark my words.

Don't use the PS2 example, it's unfair and you are clearly doing it wrong. When PS2 hit the market, it was what dreams were made of and it was the most powerful console on the market. It also came after PSX, which dominated the market and it has been on the market for 1-1.5 year before the more powerful GCN and Xbox were released, so it had a lot of time to build its position. On the other hand, NX is gonna enter a market where Xbone is already established, while PS4 is universally beloved and destined to repeat the PS2 success story. Sorry, but there is no place for a weaker console. It would be a second Wii U tragedy, nobody would care about it. People would compare the consoles and go "PS4 has a larger library, better graphics in upcoming multiplats and my friends already have one". Also the brand of Nintendo is nowhere near as strong as that of PlayStation and PS4 will possibly be as cheap as $299. So again, where is the selling point of such a console? UI? Give me a break. Such a console would have nothing to draw people's attention to. If they want Mario to be the only selling point, they can as well stick with the Wii U till the end of the gen.